For our US hunters;
What a bullit you load in the 30/30 to use in a 94.A good Deer bullit.
Thanks a lot, Hauke from Hamburg in Germany

Hauke Karl W.
Had to do a double take on you post's title. It's getting close to Halloween (All Hallows Eve. Spooks, goblins, black cats, jack-o-lanterns and WITCHes!!!!
So of course I see you posting and think we have a joke going here,'Witch bullit for the 30/30 ' I was going to ask what the bag limit in Germany was on witches, then I read your posting.
I don't own a 30/30 I have three other lever actions in 45 Colt, 45-70 and 30-06.
I do have a suggestion. The Cast Bullet Associations news letter the Fouling Shot had many articles on loading cast bullets in the 30/30. It seems the 30/30 and cast bullets were made for each other.
Any way you have a great day.
Jim

Karl:

Win. Model 94
Load:
Hornady # 3036 FP
Rem. Brass F/L resize
36.0 W/W 748
CCI-Br Primer
OAL. 2.530"
about 2100 fps.

Load:
Hornady # 3035 RN
Rem. Brass F/L resize
38.5 W/W 748
CCI-Br Primer
OAL 2.550
about 2300 fps

The W/W 748 powder burns a little sooty. But I load it in the 30/30,.17 Rem., 7TCU, .223, .308, and the 30/06, and have had good luck with group size. Its versital and cost effective in the large cannisters.

Niether load is a real barn burner but the 30/30 in the Model 94 is lite, easy to carry and will do whats required out to 150 yds or so, if the shooter does thier part.

JS
JS

Any reputable 170 grain bullet should put the .30-30 at the top of its game.
I've seen recipes for 220 grain bullets, and hopefully I'llget to try them. As for Pb in the .30-30, it has never been out of fashion.

Most of the US made 30 caliber bullets of 170 grain flat point or round nose are made specifically for the 30-30. 150 grain flat point or round noses are the same. They have been making these for a long time and they are designed to work perfectly at the modest velocities of the 30-30. Another thing many do not know is that they are a 2 diameter bullet, the front portion ahead of the crimp cannelure is less that bore size to fit in rifles with very short or no throats. Good bullets are available from Hornady, Sierra and Nosler specifically for the 30-30.

I load the 150 Speer Flat Point. I do not believe you need nor want a 170 gr bullet for deer. I like the 30-30 within it's range but you give up to much velocity with the 170s. Sean

Hauke, Guten Tag!

My Winchester 94 seems to shoot very well with the Speer 150gr flat points. Give it a try, you will get a little more velocity than the 170 gr. bullets.

I also prefer 150 grain flat points. I use the 150 grain core lockts. I find the higher velocity opens them up faster and causes a bigger wound channel. In other words.....the deer dies faster Here in Pennsylvania that is important, because if your deer runs much past 100 yards after you hit him, chances are someone else will take a poke at him or end up tagging him.

Which bullet? In my Marlin 336, the Nosler 170 over 30 grains of H4895 gave groups under one inch at 100 yds on sand bags using a 3-9 power scope cranked up all the way. Email me if you want to see the target (oops, my scanner may not be working).

Thanks a lot friends.
Hauke(with the poor Taxidriver english)

Hornady interlock 150gr or 170 gr. Not pointed of course!

I like the 170 Hornady bullet.

I like the Hornady 150g round nose or the Winchester 150g Silvertip, if I can find them. I use H335 or IMR4064, for 2300-2370 fps.

Any of the bullets that are .308 cal and flatnosed (designed for the 30-30) are good...The 30-30 has been around so long that these 150 and 170 flat nosed bullets just work, they worked the bugs out of them years ago and the low velocity doesn't destroy bullet integrity. Just find the one that shoots best in your gun...

Personally,

I like the 170gr Sierra and IMR4064. Kills these Alabama whitetails dead.

I've used the Hornady, Speer, Sierra, and Winchester ST 170 gr. bullets and the Hornady, Speer and Sierra 150 gr. bullets and simply do not see a difference except in penetration. The 170s will go through a deer (note I said deer) right hip to left shoulder, the 150s won't quite do that. However, PROPERLY placed they all do the job. Yep the 150s are faster to start but lose energy 'cause they're also roundnoses and losing velocity.

My preference is for any ".30-30" 170 gr. bullet. My load is 30 gr. IMR 3031 which gives an honest 2100+ fps in both my 94 Winchester and my 21" Contender. One bullet is .307" not .308" (Speer or Sierra escapes me now) and that bullet will get another 100 fps from my guns with the same powder charge.

The neat thing about the 30/30s I've played with is they will shoot cast, gas checked bullets as good as they will jacketed...and with the same results. I had one 30/30 years ago that shot cast dramatically BETTER than jacketed.

For deer size game, all you need is 150 gr flat point. With the small case of a 30/30, you lose velocity and trajectory pretty fast with heavier bullets IMHO. That is all loss and no real gain for deer sized animals in my book.

Not to muddy the water but I used to load for an old fellow who had a single shot 30/30. He always had me load 130gr jacketed hollow points and used H335 powder. It killed Texas whitetail deer like a lightening strike. But don't use this bullet in a tubular magazine.