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Just when you thought we had enough medium bores Blaser go and release the 8,5x55 Blaser https://www.toopics.com/p/1994...483343465_7183523384 Not sure what the parent case is but the claim is it was designed for short barrels (and suppressors?) Keen to hear if our European members know more Formerly Gun Barrel Ecologist | ||
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Sounds from the dimensions like a glorified .338 Federal, no? Aka .338/08 | |||
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I wish the 33806 would become a standard factory cartridge .I used the 338 win mag the last 32 years it's awesome! | |||
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I concur! However, my wife & I both own a 338-06, and we use Nosler factory ammo, the 210 & 250 gr. NP loads. Nosler makes (6) different loads, so they cover all the bases pretty well. The 338 WM will do everything the 338-06 will, so it’s probably an uphill battle for 338-06 recognition. Your choice therefore of the 338WM is a wise one. But one has to wonder then how the 338 Federal made it to market, as the 338-06 will do whatever the Federal version will. Probably has something to do with the size & weight of the rifle. We like the one extra round in the magazine, but mostly the lighter weight rifle over the 338WM, and the reduced recoil. One can make a very lightweight 338WM, but then one must ‘enjoy’ the recoil that comes with such a rifle. I too love the 338WM and have used it a lot here in NA and also Africa. Very versatile, and a very effective round on game. But the 338-06 is a sweetheart. Just like the 35 Whelen!  | |||
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I do think this is odd because Blaser already has a “magnum” equivalent.338 caliber cartridge. It is called the .338 Blaser. | |||
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The .338 Blaser magnum is based on the .404J case, they also made barrels in Werner Rebs version of the .338/06 the 8,5x63Reb, based on the 7x64 Brenneke case. So, is the 8,5x55 just a necked up and shortened 8x57 or have they gone wider?? I’ve seen elsewhere claims of a velocity of 2950fps with the 180 accubond Formerly Gun Barrel Ecologist | |||
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Is the 338-06 Imp or 338-06 A-Square a factory offering or at least a SAAMI cartridge. Or is it proprietary? PA Bear Hunter, NRA Benefactor | |||
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338/06 A Square was submitted to SAAMI. However, A Square was the only one offering rifles and ammo. When A Sqaure died, so did 338/06 A Square. | |||
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Weatherby offered rifles and ammo as well.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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z1r: Good get. I do believe Weatherby no longer offers rifles in 338/06 A Sqaure as well. | |||
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Nosler currently offers 5 different factory loads for the 338-06 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Hi Mike, I mentioned earlier that Nosler makes (6) loads for the 338-06. Have they dropped one of them? On their website, they still have these loads listed: 1) 180 gr. AB 2) 200 gr. AB 3) 210 gr. NP 4) 225 gr. AB 5) 225 gr. NP 6) 250 gr. NP Which is quite a nice variety to choose from for us 338-06 owners. My wife and I only shoot the 210 & 250 gr. NP. She likes the 210s for reduced recoil, and I like the 250s for greater sectional density. I hope they haven’t dropped one of those!  | |||
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surefire7, I didn't read your post as carefully as I should have. My error. I didn't check the website - I just went by what was on midway. My error. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Whew! Good news, as we don’t reload! | |||
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Nosler makes rifles and ammo both for the 338-06. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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There must be something good about the .338-'06 - - it refuses to die. In fact, I believe it is becoming more popular. I am starting a build myself. | |||
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Does anyone here have any experience with the .338-06 Ackley? | |||
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Prior to the .338 Win. I owned a 338/06 std, and in time I opened it up to a 338/06 Ackley, and I liked the Ackley best but fireforming is expensive and a pain IMO... When the 338 win hit the markets with the pre-64 Alaskan, I got the first one in town and never looked back..I could load it down to 338/06 specs or close to 340 Wby factory specs or in between was my thinking and it did just that..The gun was only a tad heavier than my 338/06 Ackly and I was young and full of piss and Vinagar, so weight was not a problem..I used the 338 Win. on most of the game in the USA, Australia, Canada, and Africa..Im fond of the 338 Win. and the 9.3x62, that decision between the two has always been my personal delima, although I had both, but which one to take was the usual choice that changed back and fourth over the years. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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When they improve the .338 win with something besides bull hockey let me know, Do any of the "grab a new better caliber" boys ever get tired of the BS? Read the ballistics before you jump, or better yet buy a cheap chronograph! The best of the bunch will give you 150 FPS at a outstanding price..Buy a $30 reloading book is second best...Just remember they have a million dollar advertisement program to pay for, and a little lie here and there is nothing and in a year we will take half the powder out so we don't get a law suit on us...and aways we go over and over again.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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