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Bortmess rifle trigger assembly/ "Made in W. Germany" action from the 70s, early 80s
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It's got "made in W. Germany" on the action. It's a push feed, and has a 375 H&H magazine inside the floor plate -- no real way to remove the rounds without cycling them all through the action. The bolt is held in place by the sear -- I need to replace the trigger because the bolt can pull right past the sear, with a little jiggling, after the gun has been fired.

The trigger assembly has no markings on it, other than "38" Other parts of the gun are numbered "36" or "37" so I don't think that number was placed there by the trigger manufacturer.

If anyone could ID the action, I'd appreciate it.


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If you could post a close up photo that would be a great help in identifying your action.



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I have been thinking about this somemore since you first asked about the trigger. And I am not sure but what I dont remember seeing several rifles done on Kleingunthers or Schlutz & Larsons actions. As I replied to the first question most that I recall where on Sakos and FN.

Does that rifle have a long kind of semi beaver tail(lacking a better term) forearm, that ends in a sort of exotic shaped tip? If so I think I saw some of those style torwards the end the companys production.

Wish I could be more help.

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Thank You. I'll take some pics tomorrow -- if I can't figure out how to post them here, I'll put a link up to a webpage where I can post them.


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Aglifter posting images here is simply. If you can upload them to a webpage you can post them here. Go to Photobucket set up a free account.
Then you can upload photos from your webpages pretty much like you uploaded them from your PC to your webpage.



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Hey guys, hopefully this works. I took more pictures than I wanted to post on this thread.

http://homepage.mac.com/aglifter/PhotoAlbum13.html

Thank You for any help.


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I think that that is a Voere (sp) action. The same one used on the Kliengunthers.



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I think that that is a Voere (sp) action. The same one used on the Kliengunthers.

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Looks like a German Voere to me. I had one in 270win but sold it about 20 years ago.It was very heavy for a 270win because of that big bolt. I also visited the factory to have a left-handed stock installed. I think the name of the town was Voerebach and it is in Southern Germany. Also sold in the US from Texas under the name Kliengunter as someone else mentioned. Those rifles had the smoothest actions I have ever put my hands on. Just like on ball bearings. Caution they had several different trigger options. Mine had a single set trigger if I remember correctly.
 
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Thank You guys -- I agree, it is an very smooth action. I contacted the company to try and find out about a replacement trigger. Unfortunately, none of their current triggers look like the one in the gun. Does anyone know if kepplinger has a website? I think it'd be easier to email them, rather than try to call them on the phone/and faster than mailing them.


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Looks like a German Voere to me. I had one in 270win but sold it about 20 years ago.It was very heavy for a 270win because of that big bolt. I also visited the factory to have a left-handed stock installed. I think the name of the town was Voerebach and it is in Southern Germany. Also sold in the US from Texas under the name Kliengunter as someone else mentioned. Those rifles had the smoothest actions I have ever put my hands on. Just like on ball bearings. Caution they had several different trigger options. Mine had a single set trigger if I remember correctly.


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Almost looks Like a Colt Sauer.
 
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