Went out and shot my 270 today.

Perfectly calm and 65 degrees.

At 100 yds I stacked 3 shots on top of each other. All within half an inch of where I wanted them to land.

At 200 yds, first shot in bullseye, second shot a quarter inch to the right.

Wisely decided to quit while I was ahead.

After decades of shooting hot calibers like the 7mm Weatherby Magnum, 300 Win Magnum, and big bores like the 45-70, 375 Ruger Magnum and the 416 Remington Magnum, it is so nice to shoot something as mild mannered as the 270 Winchester.

Jack O’Conner knew of what he spoke/wrote.

BH63

I find the 270Win so easy to love! Jack O'Connor new a good thing when he found it.

I'm on my second barrel..shot everything from pig to elk...Hard to find fault with the 270 Win

I spent my youth being severely chastised like a Catholic school boy in a nun run orphanage when I would have thoughts about the .270 Win.

Now that I am able to engage, I cannot say how much I love the 270 Win. I own 2 of them.

^
This is actually my second 270. The first one I bought when I was 18. Killed deer and elk with it.

Can’t wait for this one to taste blood.

BH63

If there is a better plainsgame to deer to even larger varmints than the .270 Win, I don't know what it is

The only thing that may be slightly better is my Rem 700 cdl in 280 Rem with a 24 inch barrel. ;

Getting my first 270 win - a blaser k95 attaché one of these days.

Mike

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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
I'm on my second barrel..shot everything from pig to elk...Hard to find fault with the 270 Win

Here, Here! Can we get an: "Amen, Brother!"

Yes, to all of the above

My wife recently had to get a new stateside deer rifle. She is relatively new to hunting, having taken her first deer at 70. I thought about it, and agreed that all of the reasons for an original 270 for her led back to a repeat choice for a 270. Hers will probably be a "deer only" rifle as we've never hunted elk. See the poll in "small bore" directory. Quite a few think the same way.

Here is a load for you to try:
LRX 129 grain, with 55.0 to 55.5 grains R16. (Start at 54.0, of course, to see if you have a minimal chamber). The result should be highly accurate and 3075 to 3150 fps with a 22" barrel. That is a great lower-48 load.

However, my wife likes the little 110gnTTSX. 58.5 to 59.0 grains of R16 will produce around 3375 to 3400 fps. It produces straight string trajectories for anything that she would want to shoot at. Sighted in 1.8" at 100yards, the bullet doesn't rise above 2.1" over line of sight, and only drops -3" at 300 yards and -12" at 400 yards. A person wouldn't even need a range finder for 98% of hunting shots. PS: We haven't recovered one of those 110gnTTSX yet with three deer. The little thing just passes through and drops the deer within 40 yards. Pretty amazing.

Yes, Jack knew what he was talking about and now we have even better technology in bullets. An excellent deer rifle, easy to handle with "magnum" reach and devastating blows for a deer.

At the moment I have 4 .270's.

Someone pointed out the gap I have in my medium rifle battery so I'm having a 6.8x64 barrel put on one of them to fix that.

With modern powders and bullets, the .270 Winchester is a much bigger, broader spectrum gun then it used to be.

I like the 270 as well, but do wish factory rifles routinely had 24" barrels. I think the case capacity/bore ratio can benefit from that.

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Someone pointed out the gap I have in my medium rifle battery so I'm having a 6.8x64 barrel put on one of them to fix that.

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I like the 270 as well, but do wish factory rifles routinely had 24" barrels

The new technology could use 7" or 8" twist barrels. The whole Creedmoor fad is really the result of adding a fast twist barrel and accommodating throat. The 270 Win and 257 Roberts would equally benefit from such adaptations.

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Originally posted by 416Tanzan:
The new technology could use 7" or 8" twist barrels. The whole Creedmoor fad is really the result of adding a fast twist barrel and accommodating throat. The 270 Win and 257 Roberts would equally benefit from such adaptations.

I agree on that issue as well. Especially with increasing use of mono-metal bullets.

The new technology could use 7" or 8" twist barrels. The whole Creedmoor fad is really the result of adding a fast twist barrel and accommodating throat. The 270 Win and 257 Roberts would equally benefit from such adaptations.

A genuine question as I don't understand the subject but what are the advantages of the faster twist over the standard 1:10 inch ? My current .270W rifles do quite well with standard 1:10 twist and 130 gn bullets. Thanks.

a 270 you say? some day try the best of that family that really gets not much love. the 3006 ! well there is that guide in Alaska , that kills great brown with his hunters . he knows about the greatness of the old 06. night all!

No one said the 30/06 was not great. We all know the greatness of the 30/06.

Even Phil Shoemaker has opined it is not ideal for bears, but a good bullet will get through the skull. I bet an Accubond or Barnes (even a Corelockt) from a 270 Win would get through skull as well.

In fact, there is a small grizzly pictured in Boddington’s North American Rifles that was stopped with a 270 Win.

I have another book published last year on Sheep and Goat hunting were the author killed a large 10 foot plus brown bear in Russia with a 270 Win Short mag and 140 grain Accubond.

Who cares. These are examples of what can be done by cool hands. Nobody is reaching for the 30/06 or a 270 today when the idea is to start a fight with a brown/grizzly bear.

There was another guy decades ago who rolled grizzled bears with 130 grain Remington loads.

I will modify the very correct quote: Those who think the 270 Win is inadequate or marginal are remarking on their own lack of marksmanship.”

Why do we have to do this. If one wants to post about the 30/06 please start a thread. No need to piss on someone’s 270 post.

There is no need to unsolicited start another 30/06 vs 270 Win fight.

I own two 30/06s too. Is not my first 3 bucks with one of them.

We all love the 30/06. However, I no longer think there is a fly’s member difference between the two.

From my reading. Elmer Keith was not too fond of the 30/06 either. His writings are modulated bc, I submit, even he knew to attack the 30/06 like he did the 270 Win would have cost him.

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Originally posted by domit:
a 270 you say? some day try the best of that family that really gets not much love. the 3006 ! well there is that guide in Alaska , that kills great brown with his hunters . he knows about the greatness of the old 06. night all!

The 30-06 was a fantastic first attempt.

It is a great caliber in its own jack-of-all- trades kind of way.

The 270 was just the ultimate improvement. Not too hot, not too cold, but just right.

BH63

Every true and aged hunter realizes sooner or later the .270 and 30-06 still rule the world of hunting..if not he or she is just stupid!

3006king, The 270 with a 10 inch twist shoots bullets up to the length of the 150 grains ok.
If you want to shoot bullet longer. such as 170+ grains they won't stabilize well.
Modern tech bullets are very long for the weight. This long nose and boat tail need the faster twist to stabilize the bullet.
These bullets have very high ballistic coefficients. This gives flatter shooting and hit harder at extreme ranges.
Leo

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Originally posted by 30.06king:

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The new technology could use 7" or 8" twist barrels. The whole Creedmoor fad is really the result of adding a fast twist barrel and accommodating throat. The 270 Win and 257 Roberts would equally benefit from such adaptations.

A genuine question as I don't understand the subject but what are the advantages of the faster twist over the standard 1:10 inch ? My current .270W rifles do quite well with standard 1:10 twist and 130 gn bullets. Thanks.

First, let me compliment you on the use of 130 grain bullets and the 270. The 130 grain gives longer range and flatter trajectories than the heavier bullets or the 30-06 in similar sectional densities. An innovation would be to try the 270 with 129gn LRX bullets. They have a fairly high BC for less wind drift out at 300 and 400 yards. Basically, if this 129gn LRX is not appropriate for the game, or if you feel that it is "marginal", then you need a significantly larger caliber, maybe a 338 or 375.

The advantage of faster twists than 1 in 10" in the 270 is to shoot longer bullets. For example, Hammer bullets makes an excellent 156 gn bullet with a BC around .590. At 400 yards it will only drift about 8.6" in a 10mph crosswind. However, it needs an 8" twist to stabilize. (For comparison, the 129LRX will have moved 9.6" horizontal, which is already excellent and probably more than you need.) For even more downrange energy there is a 168gn Hammer Hunter with a .630 BC. It will drift about 8.8" at 400yards but it will hit with 1900+ foot pounds out at that 400 mark. The downside is that the bullet needs a 7" twist. If I were ordering a new barrel for a 270 I would probably recommend an 8" twist and consider the 156 gn Hammer for a potential long-range elk. For deer out to 400 yards, the 129gn LRX will handle everything nicely, elk too.

I think Nosler Manual shows the 160 grain Accubond with a 1:10 twist.

I just checked. The twist is 1:10.

So, if you want a heavier option there it is. I am fine with 140 Accubonds.

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posted 09 September 2019 06:48 Hide Post
3006king, The 270 with a 10 inch twist shoots bullets up to the length of the 150 grains ok.
If you want to shoot bullet longer. such as 170+ grains they won't stabilize well.
Modern tech bullets are very long for the weight. This long nose and boat tail need the faster twist to stabilize the bullet.
These bullets have very high ballistic coefficients. This gives flatter shooting and hit harder at extreme ranges.
Leo

posted 09 September 2019 08:15
First, let me compliment you on the use of 130 grain bullets and the 270. The 130 grain gives longer range and flatter trajectories than the heavier bullets or the 30-06 in similar sectional densities. An innovation would be to try the 270 with 129gn LRX bullets. They have a fairly high BC for less wind drift out at 300 and 400 yards. Basically, if this 129gn LRX is not appropriate for the game, or if you feel that it is "marginal", then you need a significantly larger caliber, maybe a 338 or 375.

The advantage of faster twists than 1 in 10" in the 270 is to shoot longer bullets. For example, Hammer bullets makes an excellent 156 gn bullet with a BC around .590. At 400 yards it will only drift about 8.6" in a 10mph crosswind. However, it needs an 8" twist to stabilize. (For comparison, the 129LRX will have moved 9.6" horizontal, which is already excellent and probably more than you need.) For even more downrange energy there is a 168gn Hammer Hunter with a .630 BC. It will drift about 8.8" at 400yards but it will hit with 1900+ foot pounds out at that 400 mark. The downside is that the bullet needs a 7" twist. If I were ordering a new barrel for a 270 I would probably recommend an 8" twist and consider the 156 gn Hammer for a potential long-range elk. For deer out to 400 yards, the 129gn LRX will handle everything nicely, elk too.

Gents,
Thankyou for filling an educational gap !
When our .270W's are in use my son and I are usually thinning goats. Light animals so the 130 gn bullets are probably more than adequate. Currently my son likes Hornady SST 130 gn. I shoot these and Hornady Interbond 130 gn as I have a small stockpile to use. Both shoot well enough that we take goats out to 400 yds in reasonably settled weather.
Tanzan, I am going to try those Barnes LRX 129 gn. I have two packs to work up loads with. I am very fond of Barnes TTSX bullets for my serious game / trophy hunting. First though I will finalise current load development with Hornady ELD-X 145 gn bullets. So far seeing potential with RL23 and IMR4350. Have used some 178 gn ELD-X through my .300 Win Mag and accuracy has been impressive.
A little bit of footage here of my boy goat thinning with his .270W and Hornady SST 130 gn.
https://drive.google.com/file/...VOO/view?usp=sharing

For shooting goats you might also want to try the 110gnTTSX at about 3350fps.

My wife and her 270 has used them on three deer, with three bullet pass throughs.

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posted 09 September 2019 11:22
For shooting goats you might also want to try the 110gnTTSX at about 3350fps.

I am in no doubt these would work splendidly. I have never been disappointed with any TTSX bullet. The only issue for us is cost, approx 2 X the cost of cup & core. If engaging in a lot of trigger time TTSX use becomes a bit spendy. That's mainly why I reserve them for more serious / trophy hunting where they excel in accuracy and terminal performance.

As an update. I shot my muley buck within an hour of the season opening.

One shot with a 130 gr Hornady Interlock. Broke both shoulders and the deer dropped in less than 5 yds.

The rifle is now blooded.

BH63

As a lefty, I was always limited on available calibers. I've never been a standard cartridge in a long action fan, I always thought that I could get a short action cartridge to do the same job in a lighter, shorter gun or better performance with a magnum cartridge.

After 40 years of shooting I finally bought a 270 because it came inside a beautiful Ruger No. 1. It won't do anything that any of my other deer rifle won't do but it loves the 110 grain TTSX at 3300 fps and comes in a really pretty package.

I found that a 1 in 10 is way plenty for me. R26/Nosler 160PT from a 22" barrel gave 2930fps super easy! I also find that I like the Barnes 110 TTSX. Reminds me of a 257 Weatherby! Why? because I handloaded the 100TSX to 3500 in my last 257WBY and it killed like Lightning!

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Originally posted by 44magLeo:
3006king, The 270 with a 10 inch twist shoots bullets up to the length of the 150 grains ok.
If you want to shoot bullet longer. such as 170+ grains they won't stabilize well.
Modern tech bullets are very long for the weight. This long nose and boat tail need the faster twist to stabilize the bullet.
These bullets have very high ballistic coefficients. This gives flatter shooting and hit harder at extreme ranges.
Leo

For me a 270 Win with a 22" or 24" barrel shooting a 150g Nosler partition at 3000 fps is close to perfection for North American game excluding Alaskan brown bears.

Nosler list the 160 grain bullet with 10 inch twist.

For me, the 140 grain Accubond and the 270 Win are excellent. The 160grain bullet is for the 7mm STW.

I have had one for years. Great round.

I have noticed something interesting that I don’t understand. For whatever reason , my various 270 rifles are the first rifle to put a mark on my shoulder. Even quicker than much larger calibers.

Just bought my first 270Win last week and shot it this week when the wind died down. Threw a load together to test out and it's perfect right out the gate.
Love my new Win 70 Featherweight.

On a whim, I bought one of the TC Venture rifles in 270 Win two years ago because "every good home should have a 270" and it was $349. Mounted a Zeiss 3-15x scope on it. I have been playing with it the past few months shooting factory ammo which every single one of them (about 8 different options) shoots at least to 1.0" and often less.

Recently I worked up a load with Reloder 26 and some 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips (2nds from Shooters Pro Shop) that runs at 3089 fps at a maximum load of 60.5 grains. Just sighted it in for deer. At 50 yards it shoots every shot of 5 into one tight hole, at 100 yards it shoots four shots into 0.5" and at two hundred yards where I have it sighted to zero, it shoots four shots into 1.25". At that sighting, it has a maximum point-blank range of 373 yards (+/- 5.0") making it damn near as flat shooting as my 257 Weatherby but with more punch. And the actual trajectory data of test-firing agrees with the computer-generated data which is often not the case.

I think I like the 270 now

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Originally posted by Paul Reed:
On a whim, ...
Recently I worked up a load with Reloder 26 and some 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips (2nds from Shooters Pro Shop) that runs at 3089 fps at a maximum load of 60.5 grains. Just sighted it in for deer. . . .
I think I like the 270 now

You should like it.
You've loaded it to 3175-3180 ft pounds. That's 7mm mag territory.
Even at more sedate levels around 2800 ft lbs. the 270 is an all time classic deer rifle.

I ve seen a number of .270 that shot 150 and the old Speer 170 gr.round nose bullets into tiny groups..It just depends on the gun and the only way you can know is by bench testing..Don't just accept this stuff as fact, always try it then decide.

Interesting. Am I right in thinking that accuracy has not always been the .270's trump card?

Whoa! The .270 is no more or less accurate than any other hunting round.

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Originally posted by sambarman338:
Interesting. Am I right in thinking that accuracy has not always been the .270's trump card?

au contraire
But bullets were usually designed for hunting rather than long-range match.

In fact, the 270 was sometimes given the status of one of those cartridges that shoots different weight bullets to the same place, allowing hunters to switch between 130 and 150 grain loads.

Personally, I don't put much stock in that multi-weight POI. I found and find that 270's have some POI shift even if less than some other cartridges, less than a 30-06 going from a 150gn to 180gn or 200gn. A hunter is better off to choose and sight in one bullet for a hunt, especially if shots might be over 200 yards.