Found this post and found it interesting.

Was going to go with the Barnes 150 TTSX for all my hunting and after reading this, gaining confidence in the 140.

Have a greater chance at shooting at mule deer than elk.

Any comments?

https://www.24hourcampfire.com...45824/page/6/fpart/2

"I don't usually post my experiences/opinions on a thread EXCEPT for posts on knives and the 7mm Remington Magnum. As if it makes a darn for most...I started with the 7 Mag "seriously" in the mid '80s and have used it now in the USA, Canada, Mexico and Argentina in the Americas, Scotland, England, Sweden and Norway across the pond, RSA, Zim, Namibia and Cameroon in Africa, and finally in Australia for over 40 species, not individual animals (best I can figure some 230ish of those) from roe deer, duiker and and dik-dik to water buff, sambar and eland, with a dozen and a half different bullets..and the 140s are THE TICKET in this chambering...period.

This pic is of my 21st elk and probably 80thish or so whitetails with the 7 mag, and unequivocally 140s display better "killability" than any other despite bc, sd or xyzwqrpwhatever....and with no apologies that's just the way it is (all of these taken with the 140 pt - the deer at 300+ and the elk at 80ish)

There's a lot that think that 140 grains is also "just the ticket" in the 7mm-08, 270 Winchester, 280 Remington and 7x57 - including one Mr Rigby in his 275 of the same name.

I think in the 7mms (including the 270) it is about ideal combining good sectional density and flat trajectory with good weight and down range energy.

But for an elk? As you've got 175 grain capability in your 7mm Remington Magnum I go for that...depending on the range...it's a classic weight for the 7mm Brenneke and the 7x57 also!

I see the 7mm as a "longer" range "lighter" big game cartridge. I use a 7mm STW and push 140's to approximately 3400+ fps. I put mule deer in this class.

I too have a 7mm STW.
I shoot a 160 nosler accubond, at about 3200 FPS in that rifle.
I often take that load Elk hunting , but have never shot an Elk myself.
However my hunting partner has taken 2 elk with the same bullet in his 7mm Rem Mag.
He is very happy with the combination.
the 7 mag is an excelent all around cartridge for North american game.
However , I would not Hunt a Grizzly bear with that cartridge.
I Chose the 160 grain bullet for Thw 7 mags as they are awfully flat shooting and should have the penitration necisary for any well placed bullet out as far as I care to shoot.
Also, The 7 mag to me is a prety comfortable rifle to shoot.
...tj3006

I use 140s and 160s in my 7mm Rem. Mag.

I don't use the 140s for big stuff - which to me means over 3-400 lbs.

I use 160s for big stuff - which to me, when shooting my 7mm Rem. Mag., stops at 6-700 lbs.

For bigger than that, I want bigger than 7mm Rem. Mag.

I use 160's on everything. Nosler's 160 grain partition and Sierra's BTSP will shoot to the same point of impact from my rifle.

7mm Remington Magnum

175 grain Nosler Partitions

Federal 215 primer

Winchester brass

66 grains IMR-7828

Muzzle Velocity 15' from muzzle 3060 fps

5 shot group @ 100 yards 5/8"

Steve

Seeing as I've had experience with a 7mm RM just about as long as anyone else 1963 !.

Having used it on 5 Continents , it's Still one of my favorite Doer all Calibers !.

100 -180 grain . I'm in agreement with BuckShot 160 is awful hard to beat !.

I'm using Nosler Partions or Barnes TSX most of the time now .

For Elk I still prefer 175 but it's dependent upon Yd. in which a shot is attempted !.

I carry Both loads when I hunt . I also practice practice and practice until I KNOW where what load

is going to end up , without changing my scope WHICH I NEVER DO !. It's .5" high centered at 200 Meters

using 160 weight bullets . As my particular hunting experiences have averaged out about 218 meters

over the years . I also practice hold over so I can hit paper plates off hand out too 400 meters

more times than not . As I'm not a great shot , I must still practice and do so regularly !.

I have taken several elk and moose with 140gr bullets out of the 7mmremmag and the 7mmstw.From my own experiences,the 140gr tsx or mrx will penetrate as much or more than the 175gr partition.

I've had a 7mm Rem Mag for about 10 yrs. I consider it one of the best "all around" cartridges for North American big game and African Plains Game.

I've successfully hunted with 140 gr Ballistic Tips and 160 gr Accubonds, with the 160 Accubonds being my favorite. I took a 7mm RM to South Africa twice, to Canada's Northwest Territories for Caribou and Musk ox, and dropped my elk this year with one.

Twenty five years ago I took a friend moose hunting, and one shot from his 7mm Rem Mag put the 4th largest (at that time) B&C Montana moose on the ground.

the venerable 7remmag is a great round. if i were using one i'd go with 160gr partitions for everything. a buddy of mine, as well as my son, use 7remmags and they handle deer/elk/moose with ease.

I have two, an old Browning LH A Bolt Medallion that I truly love, and a Dakota 76. The Browning has done Africa, Canada, and several states. It loves the factory Remington (now discontinued) 160 A Frame and the Dakota will only shoot Federal 160 TSX's to a dime sized group. I've tried several reloads but have not been able to equal or better these factory loads. It's a great caliber for plains game, with several one shot kills on zebra, kudu, gemsbok and wildebeest.

I have shot the 7mm for a long time. I tried the 139 Hornady, 140 Nosler (BT & Part), 150 BT, 154 Hornady and the 175 Hornady. I finally settled on the 160 Nosler Partition for everything. It makes my reloading simpler, reduces components and kills everything. I don't push the 7 Mag beyond medium big game. I have a 300 Wby, 338 WM, 375 H&H, and 458WM for bigger stuff. Jack O'Connor once wrote about the 270 of course,"When I was younger, less sophisticated and much less cynical, I used to jump around from bullet weight to bullet weight. After five decades of using the 270 from Botswana to the Yukon and from Idaho to Iran I am convinced the world wouldn't be much the loser if there was no bullet weight available for the 270 except the original 130 gr. job-provided it was of the controlled expansion type" Thats pretty much the way I feel about the 160 grainer in the 7 Mag.

I may not have as much experience with a 7mm as a couple posters have but I have shot some variety of a 7mm for the last 40 years.That includes the 7mm Rem , Wby,the Sharpe &Hart and the STW. My favorite old mauser action 7mm Rem is presently having a new barrel installed because the old one is worn right out. It has taken most everything from coyotes to moose. While it may not be the best at those extremes it got the job done. There have been several very accurate statements or comments made here.While larger animals have been taken with hot 7mms when you get over the 4-500 lb range its a good idea to move up to more rifle. There is one thing that some people don't seem to pick up on.I don't believe you can just compare the old cup and core bullets to mono metal bullets like the Barnes X. With a cup & core type bullet a 160 gr ,7mm bullet is pretty hard to beat period. When you go to a Barnes X type bullet you do not go to the same weight of bullet and expect the same performance. Because the X bullet normally retains about99 % of its original weight ,a 140 gr X bullet will likely penetrate as much and maybe more as a 160 cup & core bullet will. I have to admit when I first started using a 140 TSX bullet I was a little leary that I didn't have enough bullet. I was plesantly surprized when I seen the penetration that the TSX bullet provides. I would suggest trying any new bullet in an expansion test against your old tried and true bullet,even if all you access to is the old box full of damp newspaper.

As my name I shoot a 7mm Mashburn super mag (300 mag necked to 7mm). Two years ago my elk guide was mad that I was using 140gr Barnes TSX. He said I should be using 160-175gr bullet or we are going to chase a wounded elk around all day. My reply was show me the elk and dont worry about my bullets. at 220yrds he found a bull laying down. That elk tried to get up after the first shot and just floped back down done and all the guide said was WOW they work pretty good dont they.

I used to like 175 grain bullets in my 7mm's (a 7mm Rem. Mag. and a 7x57mm).

But after using them for a number of years, along with 160s, I could not see that the 175s did anything better than the 160s.

So now the heaviest bullets I use in my 7mm's are 160s.

I agree that bullets are so much better these days than they used to be that we can go lighter than the "conventional wisdom" would otherwise recommend.

I have a 7 mag that will only shoot the 140 grain TSX accurately. I have tried dozens of bullet in it includig the 160 grain TSX and the 140 is the only bullet that works. If I was stuck shooting that rifle exclusively I'd probably agree with the guy for 24HourCampfire.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
I have a 7 mag that will only shoot the 140 grain TSX accurately. I have tried dozens of bullet in it includig the 160 grain TSX and the 140 is the only bullet that works. If I was stuck shooting that rifle exclusively I'd probably agree with the guy for 24HourCampfire.

Frank,

Might want to try the new TTSX 150.

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Originally posted by ar corey:

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Originally posted by Fjold:
I have a 7 mag that will only shoot the 140 grain TSX accurately. I have tried dozens of bullet in it includig the 160 grain TSX and the 140 is the only bullet that works. If I was stuck shooting that rifle exclusively I'd probably agree with the guy for 24HourCampfire.

Frank,

Might want to try the new TTSX 150.

+1

Just to spice things up try a GS Custom .284 116 gr. and pare it up with R-19 and a Gold Match 215 Fed Primer.. Just off the lands..
True Grit..
AK

My 40gr Bullet goes out of my 7mm 3135 FPS. That fast enought to kill almost any animal.

Seems like a 40 gr. bullet would be going a little faster than that.

Rojelio