Just bought this. $250.00 plus shipping and it includes dies and a box of formed brass. Let me know what you think, any pros or cons. 8x60S

I acquired this rifle several years ago with the idea of finding the rings for the
sidemount base. They are out there but no luck at less than the cost of the rifle...
so it goes. Please email for many high resolution pics to evaluate condition. The
receiver is marked "S/42" and "1937". The numbers have been removed from the
receiver but the numbers on the safety are consistent with the guard screws.
There was a side mount intstalled - it is included as are a set of Hornady Dies. I
formed a box of cases, those go too if I can find them. The barrel is stepped but not
a standard military contour and the rifling does not seem to be the deep military
type. The bore is shiny and about 25 1/2 inches long. The trigger guard/floorplate
area is gouged/scratched. The rifle as been fired about 50 rounds.. with no
problems. US Sales only. FFL required. Buyer to pay $20.00 Shipping in continental
US. I accept PayPal, money orders, and cashier's checks only.


[ 05-19-2003, 11:10: Message edited by: Roger Rothschild ]

caliber???????

Roger,

I sure would have bought it for that. If you don't like it, keep me in mind. You seem to find more than your share of good deals .

Jim

Could it be an 8x68S?
Shayne

It is 8x60S, a little shorter than 8mm'06 and easily formed with one pass on .30'06 brass. I can use same loading data.

Neat, looks like a pre-war Mauser. Is the barrel half-octagonal? Stock obviously set up for open sights.

I have an old Oberndorf from the 30-ies, it has a stock similar to this one - except for the raised action side panels. (Unfortunately, I don't have the original bolt, so my rifle is more for inspection than for shooting). Other than that, my rifle is pretty much a dead ringer for this one: rounded pistol grip, one swivel on the barrel, two-stage strigger etc etc.

This should be a fun gun.

- mike

It looks almost exactly like the 9x57 Mauser I bought a few weeks ago, except in perhaps a little better condition. Mine has double-set triggers, otherwise it's the spitting image. Is your trigger a single-set, like the new CZ's? I also paid "just slightly" more than you did...

Tha barrel is stepped in one place, so that is why it might look like it has a rib. It is a standard single stage miliatry trigger from what I see. I just sent off the payment and copy of my C&R so it should be here in two weeks. One week for mine to get there and one week for it to arrive. I can't wait! The "gouges" that wqere spoken off are really some scratches where some bozo tried to open the floorplate with something sharp. Just need the helping hand of a stone. I will have to see how bad to make a decision to send it off and have it done.

Mike, isn't it possible to find a bolt for the rifle you have?

Roger,

You were totally taken to the cleaners! The only way out of this mess is for you to send me that rifle and I'll take care of it for you. I'm sorry it had to be this way but I'm glad I was here to help you in your time of need.

Good Hunting,

I agree with Fritz, on the safety thing, Id do my brass from the 35 Whelen, so with the headstamp, one of the cartridges wouldn't be likely to be chambered in someone's 30-06.

The rifle is nice, and is a fine example of the Tyrol style of rifle popular in Germany, and surrounding countries in the 20s and 30s. I have one chambered for 8X57IRS with claw mount scope, and iron sights, and double set trigger, barrel mounted front swivel, some scroll engraveing, hanging on the wall in my den. Neat little rifle!

I have no disagreement with what you have both said, it sounds like a very good, practical idea since I do not have a .35 Whelen. Thanks for the pointer.

Herr Kraut is right. I have a double in the same caliber, but rimmed. The 8X60 originated after the Treaty of Versailles as a way that Germans could keep their hunting guns which were chambered for the 8X57 which was now outlawed. They just ran an 8X60 reamer into the chamber, and made the case 3mm longer... Of course, the shoulder moved also, so the rifle would no longer handle 57mm cases...

This round has a capacity almost exactly half-way between the 8mm/'06 (8X63mm), and the 8X57mm ... I have used 8mm/'06 STARTING LOADS, but these are close to MAX in my 8X60, which is a break/open side by side, not a Mauser, which will handle hotter stuff. The 8X60S "Magnum Bombe" load of pre-WWII days was considered as hot as an English .300 H&H round!! It fired a 198-grain bullet at around 2900 FPS!!