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I was in the Cabelas north of Ft. Worth today. They had at least half a dozen Husquevarna sporting mausers in 9.3x57. I don't know much about all the different mauser models, and I couldn't find markings that I savied, but I would like to know if these could be rechambered to 9.3x62. Same case head and OACL.


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Depends whether the rifles are mod 96's or 98s - although husky chambered both models in 9.3x62 as factory cartridges.

If I recall , just shoving a x62 reamer into the chamber doesnt gaurantee success , due to the chamber dimensions of the x57 calibre. Some of the rifles had off-spec chambers and the new reamer wont remove all the shoulder point , leaving you with a deformed new chamber.

Someone like z1r can tell you better than I , I'm sure he will add to the above for you .


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I rechambered a Husky 9.3x57 built on a commercial FN 98 to 62. It had a problem in the throat area, possibly from firing 9x57s in the 9.3 chamber, but the reamer cleaned it up. No other modifications were necessary but I am adding a barrel mounted recoil lug.


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Cabela's buyers apparently came across a shitload of these old Huskies. The store in Buda has a number of them on their shelves, along with a number of old Husqvarna SxS shotguns. One thing you can depend on, if it's offered by Cabelas, its bound to be priced more than it's worth.
 
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I wonder where all these Huskys are coming from? Sarco had a bunch, tradex-canada has a ton, simpsons-ltd, now Cabela's, etc. Sweden I suppose.


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Well, are they C-ring or H-ring? You know what they say animal


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Good one Terry. Either will do for me, as long as there are no cross-bolts.

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Cabelas got theirs from Simpsons, about 2000 of them I'm told.

Muzza is right that simply reaming out the chamber is no guarantee of success. The chambers varied widely on rifles chambered in 9.3x57. Some are so oversized that a 9.3x62 reamer will not clean up the chamber. The ones built on a 98 action tend to have smaller chambers but I would confirm with a chamber cast prior to undertaking the conversion.

That said, on those that are suitable I have done this many times.




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I saw the ones in Buda several weeks ago. Thought about buying one, but had no real idea of what a fair price is, or what action I might be dealing with. Several were/appeared in excellent condition. Anyone looked at these and have an educated opinion, can tell me what to look for? In my case, I would re-do to 9,3X62 as I already have a rifle in that caliber.


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sarco had abunch for sale a while back 3 for under 700$ I wish that I would have bought some
 
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About 4 years ago I bought an FN98 actioned Husky in 9.3x62 and a 96 actioned one in 9.3x57. The stocks weren't pretty but they were good servicable rifles. Iv'e used the 98 elk hunting. I paid $250 for each from SARCO


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I was at the Cabela's store in Ft Worth yesterday. They had at least 10 Huskys in the 9.3x57. I found 3 of them that had date stamps (in the usual location of old mausers) of 1942 out of the Husky arsenal. This was when Germany had taken over the factories. I would assume these are "98" mauser actions that were rechambered after the war?? But not sure.


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I heard that the new gun laws in Sweden only allow people to own only a few guns (can't remeber the amount- less than 6 I think) and have to get rid of the exess. That is why there are so many showing up here in North America. I personaly picked up 7 husqvarnas from Tradex. 1 96 in 9.3x57 and the rest 98s, 2- 9.3x62, 1-6.5x55, 3- 8x57. Some have nice stocks and a couple are cracked at the tang. The 8mm's I bought mainly for the actions.

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I was at the Cabela's store in Ft Worth yesterday. They had at least 10 Huskys in the 9.3x57. I found 3 of them that had date stamps (in the usual location of old mausers) of 1942 out of the Husky arsenal. This was when Germany had taken over the factories. I would assume these are "98" mauser actions that were rechambered after the war?? But not sure.


If you meant when Germany took over FN, that is likely since Sweden was neutral during the war. It is my understanding that Husqvarna bought enough FN actions to continue production of sporting rifles during the conflict. Shortly afterwards they came up with their own small ring action used in the 1600 series rifles.

I think I also read somewhere that a lot of these older rifles are coming from shooting/hunting clubs that have upgraded their inventory to more modern rifles.


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sarco had abunch for sale a while back 3 for under 700$ I wish that I would have bought some


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I heard that the new gun laws in Sweden only allow people to own only a few guns (can't remeber the amount- less than 6 I think) and have to get rid of the exess. That is why there are so many showing up here in North America. I personaly picked up 7 husqvarnas from Tradex. 1 96 in 9.3x57 and the rest 98s, 2- 9.3x62, 1-6.5x55, 3- 8x57. Some have nice stocks and a couple are cracked at the tang. The 8mm's I bought mainly for the actions.

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Sir, those Husqvarna M98 sporters (not FN actions), are they with ejector slot under left lug like modern CZ or Winchester M70?

Also, on 8x57, what is magazine (max. cartridge) length? Thanks, Onty.
 
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OK, 9.3x57 Husqvarna and FN 98 reciever Husqvarna rifles are my passion. The original 9.3x57 was the M46 built from the 1920's throught mid 1930's. These are small ring 96 actions (1896) that is the same action that Swede rifles had been built on for years, A few were built on 94 actions. The Swedes then used the same 96 actons for the M46a which changed the barrel contour to make the chamber stronger. Some of these rifles were 9.3x62, but most were 9.3x57. The FN recievers were post war, 1947 FN recievers. The Nazi's cut all sales of scopes off to Sweden in 1939 at the beginning of WW2, so no recievers were ever sold before or during WW2. In 1947 Sweden bought 10,000 FN commercail receivers (no thumb cut in receiver). The were built on up to 1964. Most of the early rifles were 8x57, 9.3x62 and 30.06. In the late 1950's some were made in .270. All the rifles made had the same bolt face size to utilize the original 98 bolts. The 1600 series used a slightly modified 96 action.
Pics top to bottom: 1930 9.3x57 M46,1943 9.3x57 M46a, 1955 Husqvarna-FN reciever 8x57, 1962 Husqvarna 1600 6.5x55.



 
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OK, 9.3x57 Husqvarna and FN 98 reciever Husqvarna rifles are my passion. The original 9.3x57 was the M46 built from the 1920's throught mid 1930's. These are small ring 96 actions (1896) that is the same action that Swede rifles had been built on for years, A few were built on 94 actions. The Swedes then used the same 96 actons for the M46a which changed the barrel contour to make the chamber stronger. Some of these rifles were 9.3x62, but most were 9.3x57. The FN recievers were post war, 1947 FN recievers. The Nazi's cut all sales of scopes off to Sweden in 1939 at the beginning of WW2, so no recievers were ever sold before or during WW2. In 1947 Sweden bought 10,000 FN commercail receivers (no thumb cut in receiver). The were built on up to 1964. Most of the early rifles were 8x57, 9.3x62 and 30.06. In the late 1950's some were made in .270. All the rifles made had the same bolt face size to utilize the original 98 bolts. The 1600 series used a slightly modified 96 action.
Pics top to bottom: 1930 9.3x57 M46,1943 9.3x57 M46a, 1955 Husqvarna-FN reciever 8x57, 1962 Husqvarna 1600 6.5x55.





Jpat,

Actually, the M146 a 9.3x57 used FN actions, they were of the Military 98 configuration but they were FN actions. One of mine dates to 1937, another 1938, another 1940 and another 1941 and these are just the 9.3x57's.




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Roger that. FN was Belgian, not German.


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OK, 9.3x57 Husqvarna and FN 98 reciever Husqvarna rifles are my passion. The original 9.3x57 was the M46 built from the 1920's throught mid 1930's. These are small ring 96 actions (1896) that is the same action that Swede rifles had been built on for years, A few were built on 94 actions. The Swedes then used the same 96 actons for the M46a which changed the barrel contour to make the chamber stronger. Some of these rifles were 9.3x62, but most were 9.3x57. The FN recievers were post war, 1947 FN recievers. The Nazi's cut all sales of scopes off to Sweden in 1939 at the beginning of WW2, so no recievers were ever sold before or during WW2. In 1947 Sweden bought 10,000 FN commercail receivers (no thumb cut in receiver). The were built on up to 1964. Most of the early rifles were 8x57, 9.3x62 and 30.06. In the late 1950's some were made in .270. All the rifles made had the same bolt face size to utilize the original 98 bolts. The 1600 series used a slightly modified 96 action.
Pics top to bottom: 1930 9.3x57 M46,1943 9.3x57 M46a, 1955 Husqvarna-FN reciever 8x57, 1962 Husqvarna 1600 6.5x55.

Jpat,

Actually, the M146 a 9.3x57 used FN actions, they were of the Military 98 configuration but they were FN actions. One of mine dates to 1937, another 1938, another 1940 and another 1941 and these are just the 9.3x57's.


Not the norm and The 146 is a small ring Mauser, not a large ring as the Wartime 98 is, or 1947 FN reciever. The small ring 98 has the rear locking lug, but still has issues as the 96 w/ handling gasses from a ruptured case. Bolt and reciever are a similar size to the 96. Although your Rifles maybe 1940's dated the recievers were bought long before the rifle was built and numbered.
 
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Jpat, respectfully, you're wrong.

The M46 and M46A are small rings based on the 94/96 receiver.

The M146 is a large ring and used FN receivers. These were military style with thimbcut and charger hump. They were built during the late 30's and into the 40's. Husqvarna then switched to Commercial FN actions on their 640 series.


I believe you are thinking of the 1640 receivers which are small ring sized, 98 style receivers that have the ejector blade moved so that it does not bisect the top locking lug. They also lack the typical Mauser bolt stop.




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How strong are these Husquevarna bolt actions?
 
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That is the source of endless debate. The shear area of the lugs on a 96 bolt is significantly larger than on a 98, but the 96 lacks the "third lug" of the 98. Both have a forged bolt handle root as the "last resort". The Swedes used good steel and heat treated the commercial Huskies to take high pressure rounds like the 220 Swift. The military actions are treated differently and cannot be put in the same category as the 46. Husqvarna came out with the "Improved Mauser" which is the same small ring action with no cuts to the left side wall and chambered full house rounds like the 270 Win and European loaded 8MM Mauser. Kimber made a number of magnum rifles from surplus military Swedes and many had setback problems. I don't feel you should compare the two. None the less, I wouldn't build a 300 Win on an old Husky when there are better actions for that. They will make a beautiful anythingx57, 308 Win, 257 Roberts, 338 Federal or somesuch as that.

Oddly, the detractors of the original M46 actions seem to have no compaints about the "Improved Mauser" action even though the bolts are interchangeable with the earlier commercial actions. They have the same bolt shroud/cocking piece arrangement. An argument can be made that the gas handling is worse in the newer action because the thumb cut was/is an excellent escape route for gas channeled down the left raceway.

So, as a not-so-partial user of the early Husqvarna actions, I say they are fine for most applications where the cartridge is well sized for that size action.

This is the "Improved Mauser in 8MM Mauser:



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Seems a pity to rechamber the 'potato chucker' to 9.3x62. A 9.3x57 with a 232gr oryx works very well. Some of the rechambering/refinishing/scope mounting jobs I have seen on AR have been a bit crude IMHO.
 
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