Gentlemen



I just got a new rifle to my collection/battery it is a Husqvarna model 1651 Lux (Husqvarna Mauser) in cal. .358 Norma Magnum.

I am no expert on the calibre but it should do nice on Mr Moose in Sweden this fall.

I would like to hear any input on the rifle and especially the calibre

I bought the rifle on a weapons auction in Copenhagen yesterday.

I am planning to restore the rifle with oil finish on the stock and try to get a hold of some rings to fit the Einhak mounts.

Now all I need is some ammo. CCHunter is working on getting me some Norma 250 grn TXP(Swift A-Frame) at a fair price. They cost less in Sweden



Her is the rifle.













Cheers,



Andr�

JefferyDenmark



That stock is going to make the gun real experience



358 Norma mag can be found in most well stocked stores, I guess you got to catch the ferry



Your fellow country man, Perto really liked the caliber and has used a S&L for quite some time (read his article about 358 Norma mag). A 250 grain bullet beeing launched in 850 m/s will do for most stuff.



Now you need a 8X68S and 9,3X64 to make the collection complete



Cheers

/ JOHAN

Jeffery, I have a 1960 Crown Grade Husky in .358 Norma that looks a lot like your rifle. I love the cartridge and think you will too. So far have only used in on South Carolina whitetails but hope to use it on something more substantial one day. Great rifle there, congrats!

Johan

I am planning on having a new stock done with a classic straight look. Like this one. I just talked to a friend of mine whom is a gunsmith and he could do it for a fair price.

Until then the old stock will do, and it will properly be the one that is on the rifle when I bring it to Sweden for you guys to play with.

Christer can get me the ammo for 600 Skr for 250 grn TXP Nice price I think In Denmark they charge about 90 KR more Swedish ammo is cheeper in Sweden.

I hope that you apreciate the goal that we gave you in the last minute laste night 2-2



Cheers,

Andr�

Thank you

How is the recoil in your rifle ?
I have heard that the recoil in the Husqvarna rifles are quite bad in cal. 358NM ! But then again I can shoot my .500 all day. The persons that claim this might not be CNC machined from the same piece of steel that I am .
Pain is just weakness leaving the body

Cheers,

Andr�

Andre�

Congratulations with your new toy !
A 1651 in .358 Norma Magnum delivers a lot of felt recoil. My favorite rifle is .358 Norma Magnum in Schulltz og Larsen m/68 - and that is somthing very different.( The same rifle sold as The Norma Rifle, in Schweden) I injoy shooting it. You have got a gun to deal with moose, bear, boar and great antilopes.
In the Swedish " Vapentidningen " nr 5/2002 you can read about 358 NM written by Jens Perto.

/416nimrod

P.S. I would love join the next Bigbore Meeting with my 358 NM and its bigger brother in 416 Rigby (Schultz & Larsen m/56A)

Well Bwana

You are more then welcome I think the next meeting will be BIG REAL BIG

I know of the Schulltz og Larsen rifles but prefer the Mauser style actions, however I like the barrels from S&L production and the older Otterup (I have one in 6,5X55)the accuracy is nothing but outstanding.

Cheers,

Andr�

Hi Andre,

Very nice Husky. I am curious about the scope mount. Who made it? It is obviously not one of the usual (US made) suspects, seen on this side of the pond.

Enjoy,
Tom

Hi,
An outstanding rifle!
My warmest congratulations to a truly Classic rifle and caliber!

I have two Husqvarna 1600 Special but with Hva straight stock, one in 9,3x62 with Suhler einhaks montage like yours, the other one in 7x64, both have Schulz and Larsen barrels.

I think that the Hva 1600 rifle is very underestimated here in Scandinavia

/Husky

You'll either like that stock or throw it out as soon as possible. I have a CZ 416 with the Bavarian style stock and find it comfortable to shoot.
I had a SAKO L-61 in 308 Norma that was a nightmare to shoot. Worst kicking gun I ever fired-and it had a straight stock. I've always liked the Huskys. I have one in 30.06 that has nothing to recommend it except the tiny holes it makes at 200 yds.

TomH

The mount is a Einhak mount from Suhler Germany.

Cheers,

Andr�

husky

Thank you. I am very happy with my new gun. But I might restock it due to a small crack on the right side.
I like the action very much it is so smooth.

Cheers,

Andr�

Andr�,

The recoil of your 1651 will be nothing compared to the 500 Jeffery.

Like I wrote in the other thread, my 358 felt like a 22LR after shooting some 458 Win Mag just prior to it.

I load my own ammunition, using 250gr Hornadys for practice, and 250gr Woodleighs for hunting.

You will love your gun more and more as you get used to it!

Stefan/ Jeffery.........thanks for the explanation. i've never seen such a setup. i wonder if having the front mount directly on the barrel causes any shift in bullet impact after the barrel starts to heat up..???? anyway, thanks for the explanation.....

One thing i always has wondering about i why the front ring always is around the objektiv on a "hakmontage"? Why dont put it on the middle pipe as normal mounts?


Regards Rikard

Rikard.........i have no idea why this is set up the way it is. hopefully, Stefan or Jeffery, or someone else who is familiar with ths arrangement, can address this. i am looking forward to a response to this question.

This type of mounts is often used on break-open guns and there isn�t room for the rear mount on the tube.

Personally I don�t like these type of mounts. They are REALLY difficult to mount on the gun and you have to fit every mount with the rings mounted on the scope. If you take the rings of the scope you often have to readjust the fitting in the bases when you put the mounts back on the scope again....... This is done by blackening the surfaces and use a honeing stone. I�d go for a traditional mount system with bases and rings made of steel on a bolt gun!

But that�s my opinion

Stefan

I agree with you all the way to the bank the Einhack mount is very expensive.

The EAW XS pivot mount is my choise when a detachable mount is needed. They cost half and work great.



Cheers,



Andr�

I had several Huskys in 30-06, and I wish you luck with the recoil. All of my rifles split the web of the stock and had to be glass bedded, but were very accurate after that. I have only one now, a carbine like yours.

Your rifle and mine have an aluminum alloy magazine boxes. Some had steel boxes, but stocks for the two rifles are different. The front of mine is dented from the cartridge noses banging into it during recoil. I've been told that a standard Mauser magazine will fit, which I will do if I restock it.

Lastly, the ejector: tighten the ejector screw and use a little LocTite to keep it in place. Also find a spare if you can. Hope this helps, Okie John.

European scope mounts attach to the objective to allow the scope to have proper eye relief.

When scopes were invented, rifles all still had a long LOP (over 14"). At the time, scopes were rare and were all hand fitted to accomodate the long (and comfortable) stocks.

As mass production of scopes and rings came about, this traditional style was kept, with accomodations made for the various sizes of objective. These mounts are still of high quality and cost.

On the American side of the puddle, mass production means cost cutting. The idea was to make scope mounting as affordable as possible. This meant standardizing the ring size and mounting them to the tube. This naturally pushes the scope forward on the rifle, and leads to shortening the stock to achieve proper eye relief. This is also why post-war American stocks have a 13-13.5" LOP, where as most European stocks still maintain the original +14" LOP.

A lot of folks still think the stock difference is because Europeans have long arms and Americans have short arms. It is primarily due to the different styles we have chosen for mounting scopes. Tradition vs. affordability.