I found a NIB M70 Classic FWT in .280. Nice wood too.

$850. Seems a bit high ($100-150) to me.

If you really want it, try to negotiate. If you wan't it bad enough, be prepared to pay the price.

Ken....

That is what $85 a year over 10 years compared to $70 a year if the asking price was $700.

Not really much of a difference.

If you have seen others for less than $850 then $850 might be high.But if you have only ever seen one then I would say $850 is the going rate.

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Originally posted by Duckear:
I found a NIB M70 Classic FWT in .280. Nice wood too.

$850. Seems a bit high ($100-150) to me.

ripoff

Why, do you have one for less?

If you go with a close look alike gun like a MRC rifle it will run you over $1200 for the barreled action and the stock.

The crazy thing about the Mod 70's are that there is no blanket price for all the calibers.

If this was an 06 I would be thinking more along the lines of $650, 7mag $550, 300 Win mag $700. If it was a 300 ultra mag it would easily be $850.

The only other .280 Mod 70 featherweight for sale on Gunbroker is a push feed for $925. Looking at that one I would say you found a good deal.

Offer the guy $700 as said before. If you want it, $850 and its yours. If you dont want it get a Ruger and it will still cost $600+.

it is overpriced imo. offer him 7 crisp 100.00 bills and let him see em'.

Aren't the new M70's supposed to be avalible soon? I would wait if I could. The new ones are supposed to be better.



Terry

If I were in the market for a new rifle right now I would give 850 for it if that was the best he would do.. but that is because I have been thinking about getting a 280 and making it my all around rifle..

My opinion is that if it is something I really want that isn't all too common, I will easily pay a $100 premium just to save myself the hassle of searching for a better deal for the next six months. Five months into it after you've seen several more in worse shape priced higher, you begin to regret not having snatched it up. That extra $100 starts to look like money well spent in hindsight. And, there are no guarantees that you'll even find another.

I'm not saying this particular rifle is worth it or not. Rather, just sharing my personal experience with the same situation.

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Originally posted by TC1:
Aren't the new M70's supposed to be avalible soon? I would wait if I could. The new ones are supposed to be better.



Terry

Looks like there are going to cost more too?

The first one I have seen on gunbroker is a 270 win blued featherweight for $899+ shipping.

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Originally posted by RMiller:

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Originally posted by TC1:
Aren't the new M70's supposed to be avalible soon? I would wait if I could. The new ones are supposed to be better.



Terry

Looks like there are going to cost more too?

The first one I have seen on gunbroker is a 270 win blued featherweight for $899+ shipping.

and so far they are not available in .280 Remington!

I'd say that unless it is ridiculously overpriced, go for it. Life is too short and you don't get many chances. I'm looking for a 75 Finnlight in .308, and have had several slip through my hands because I have thought too much about the purchase.

The tough thing is whether it really is overpriced. It sure seems to me that it is, but when no one else has one for sale.....

I like the 'old' M70 triggers because even I can adjust them. The new ones are....different. I fear change. lol

I need another rifle like I need another hole in my head.....

The guy that has it is nice, runs a small gunsmithing operation. He will strip down and firearm and polish it and do a nice deep hot blue for $90 or so and have it back within a week. Great for bring back family 'heirlooms' that have no value other than sentimental.

But talking firearm prices is a bit like arguing with a woman.

When I flinched at the price, he pulled up a web site of a distributor that still listed the old Winchester rifles. Of course they were all listed as 'unavailable'. He points to a $999 MSRP and says "Look, that is my cost and I can't even get them at that".

I had my FFL when winchester went out of business and I remember M70 featherweight's were bringing about $650 wholesale when they shut down. Couple that with the fact that they didn't make many .280's (I don't remember ever seeing one) and I don't think his price is out of line. It might be a tad bit high and I'd certainly try to jew him down, but if it's what you've been looking for and you like the wood I wouldn't let an extra $100 stop me from buying it. You'll not likely see another NIB .280 for a while at any price and I'm not interested in one of the new manufacture M70's because of the new trigger design, I don't want the new trigger. Heck, I see folks drop $100 on dinner all the time. What you rather do with an extra $100, have a fancy dinner or put it on a rifle you'll own the rest of your life.

Well, if I'd seen that rifle and he wouldn't talk down the price a bit, I'd probably bite the bullet, no pun intended and buy it anyway.
Why? One I like the cartridge, and two, I think the M70 Featherweight in the current style is probably one of the coolest guns Winchester ever brought out.
If I want it bad enough, then I'll just pay the price. A prime example. I like the .35 Whelen. About three years ago, I spotted an NIB Remington 700 Classic in .35 Whelen. This dude was holding onto the gun like it was his long lost lover but arguing with the owner on the price of $500 which included a scope and mounts.
I asked to see the gun and when the owner said $500, I just paid him without bothering to haggle. The haggler called me some very uncomplimentary names. I just said, "If you wanted the gun that badly, you just should have given the man his price. How ever, if you still want it, the price is now $600 without the scope, $700 with." He wasn't very happy.
I just figure that if I want it and the price is not too far out of line I just pay it. I know that if I'd seen that .280, it would be residing in my safe right now, even if I had to pay the $850. JMHO.
Paul B.

I think that you're a lot better off paying $850 for something that you really want than paying $700 for something you settled for and wasn't what you really wanted.
Maybe they will negotiate a bit (if they don't read this thread) but if not a Featherweight 280 isn't a gun you are going to be able to find any time you want it, especially with nice wood..............................DJ

When the Winchester Co. AKA USRA,was closing their doors, the only rifles that were going for reasonably cheap money IE:$650.00 were the Winchester Super Short Magnun calibers because they never became very popular. I don't think that price is that much out of line for an odd caliber in a Featherweight.
Its up to you how much you want it.

I see a mint Remington 700BDL carbine in
280 Rem for sale in GUNLIST, price is 1295,
kind of steep, but how often do you see this
configuration?

Ok Duckear...I'll help you out. Tell me the name and number of this guy and I will try to convince him to sell it to you for $750. If he don't budge, I will pay him the $850 and let you know how nice it handles and that its very accurate...howzat?

Duckear

When I am thinking about buying a gun, as to the price,=here is what I would consider.

If you are the type of person that researches what exactly you want....

And if you are the type of person, that, once you get the gun, that you have researched, you keep it forever....

Then, a few dollars, here or there, on the purchase price, are not that big a factor.

Ya, well I remember my father saying his new '1960 Winchester model 70 in .300 H&H was way too much at about $275 when he bought it. If you really want it, a few years from now, it will feel like a bargin. I've paid more than I thought was fair for several rifles thru the years, but in the long run, have never regretted any of them. Money will come and go. . . Good rifles are forever!

If it is what you want pay the money; what is 150 bucks, I bet you have spent a $150 dollars worth of time looking and pricing.

Ed

I do not recall seeing many featherweigts in 280 so they will probably fetch a premium. I bet if you ask the owner to throw you a bone and you will buy it he will at least give a little bit on the price.

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Originally posted by ron williams:
I do not recall seeing many featherweigts in 280 so they will probably fetch a premium. I bet if you ask the owner to throw you a bone and you will buy it he will at least give a little bit on the price.

I asked
He did
I bought

There's no such thing as "way too much" for a gun if you really want it. My shooting buddy says my $700.00 was "way too much" for a NIB S&W M41 but I'd pay it again in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Duckear:

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Seems a bit high ($100-150) to me.

If you already own a .270, 7 X 57, 7MM-08 or 30-06 agreed.

If you own a .22 lr, Buy it.

$850 seems high to me also

If it was a 24" bbl I'd say he would get his price. I have only seen one other, a push-feed with 22" bbl. He wanted something like $750 for it.

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Originally posted by Duckear:

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Originally posted by ron williams:
I do not recall seeing many featherweigts in 280 so they will probably fetch a premium. I bet if you ask the owner to throw you a bone and you will buy it he will at least give a little bit on the price.

I asked
He did
I bought

I don't think you went wrong on this one, a fine rifle in a fine round. congrats

If it is something you really want and are going to keep it for a while, what is $150. The way I look at it if you like it and you can afford it buy it.

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Originally posted by Dark Templer:
If it is something you really want and are going to keep it for a while, what is $150. The way I look at it if you like it and you can afford it buy it.

Exactly!!!

Don

I've noticed lots of folks want a $850 rifle for $600. They also want an elephant hunt for the price of a plainsgame hunt or a new car for the price of an outboard motor...Must be a human thing!

Pretty obviously the question of "price" varies with each prospective buyer.

I wanted a nice .280 also, but already had far too many different rifles in the same power and range category. So I never paid any of the high prices for one, just kept enough money in my wallet to buy any of the .280s (or other rifles I was also interested in) if I ran across one which "fit my pistol".

Then one day, I saw a really nice lightweight .280 (built properly) on a commercial Mauser action, complete with after-market fully-adjustable trigger, stainless barrel, very nice stock with wrap around checkering front and rear, Model 70-style safety, Leupold scope base and QD rings, and the whole action and bottom metal Armalloy coated to match the barrel steel. The guy was asking $250, but actually took $225. And that was in 2005!

So, I figger I was better off just being laid back and enjoying the search.

As the fella from Saskatchewan posted above, I would have bought the higher priced goods if I really needed a .280 to go hunting. But I didn't need it, I just wanted it. So, I waited.

On the other hand, If I needed a rifle tuit suite for an African hunt, I wouldn't think twice about paying $9,000 or so for a used double .470, even though I used to buy them at auction in England for $200.

A guy has to know himself, and his actual needs, before he can recognize a bargain or walk away from a gun that is overpriced for HIS situation.