There are just too many choices and too many good bullets to try anymore! So I got to thinking what was one of the first stone killer loads for the Hi Velosity crowd. Going to be loading for my brother in law and he's looking to make a splash so to speak. My personal recomendation was the 200 grain Accubond, but when he was in the store, they didn't have them. So, back to the title question... any loads worth trying as well would be appreciated. Or basic powder recomendations . I will and always work up the load for the individual rifle. Thanks in advance.

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Anything wrong with using a 150 Nosler Partition in the .300 Weatherby?

May I assume you're hunting deer?

I'd far prefer a heavier bullet for that speed but there's no reason you won't do just fine with a 150 NP on deer.

Yes this would be a western deer load for the open spaces. Both whitetails and mulies.




Like I had said, the 200 grain Accubond would be my choice of what he should use.

I had bad luck with 150's in my 300 WM mag. They will be fine for deer, but you'll get a lot of meet damage. For anything larger you probably won't get the penetration you need.

For short range shots, Elkhunter is probably right about the meat damage to be expected.

If it was me, and I desperately wanted to load a 150 grs at Wby speeds, I'd check if a 150 grs TSX would shoot in the rifle in question. If yes, I'd look no further.
- mike

Load some up and find out what they do. The partition will hold up. I wouldn't worry about meat damage. Keep your shots to the lung heart area and kill a deer.

I think if you look up some bullet drop tables for the 150, 180 and 200gr bullets, you'll find the 200gr load is the flattest shooting for the 300Wby. The SD and BC numbers are far higher for the 200gr and you won't give up a thing to the faster loads. I am a long time user of the 300Wby and the 200gr is the main bullet for me. I load with IMR7828 and typically get a bit over 3000fps with any 200gr bullet.

For what it's worth, I tried the 150 NP in my 300 RUM several years ago, with horrible results. If he insists on using them at 300 Wby velocities I'd strongly suggest shooting a few into wet paper, or something, before taking them hunting. Complete vaporization of the bullet was my experience. It did make a spectacular coyote load, however.

IMHO this is where a monometal bullet like the TSX will pay off. Even my '06 will blow humongous holes with 150 partitions, so I went to the 165 grain balistic tip for my light load. I think they hit harder at looong range than the 150 does.
FWIW, I use 200 grain Accubonds in my 300 H&H and once in a blue moon load 220s in the '06, but I still favor Nosler's 180 grain protected point as an all-round bullet.

I hear John S may know a thing or two about the 300 Wby (grin)... I agree too. The "regular" 300's seem most at home with a 180 (that's what I load in my 300 WSM) but the 300 Wby is another step up. It and the 300 RUM seem tailor made for the 200's.

I'm a 30 cal nut but for me 150's are for the 308 Win or maybe the 30-06... maybe.

Iv taken deer with a 300, and laoded for a two frends 300s. I used partitions, my frends used balistic tips. I was happy with the partition they were happy with the B-tips.
Were I to buy or build a 300 whatever ,mag now I think I would go with a 168 grain tsx. Superbly acurate and deadly bullet...tj3006

Howdy
this ain't quite the same but my .300 win mag sendero shoots amazing groups with a 150 grain Accubond and 76gr of reloader 22. Recoil is not unplesant.I estimate the velocity at about 3100 fps. When I manage to do my job its just one hole when I'm sloppy its less than a inch.reloaded winchester and remington cases shoot almost identical point of impact.If you want to you can really wind these .300's up but I see no need to burn out a good barrel plus wast excess powder . The 150 grain accubond holds together and will knock off any hooved critter in north america in short order . Give the 150's a try I think you will like em and if your gun likes em as well as mine does they will out shoot the 200 grainers short or long range .The velocity is estimated if any one knows what the above combo shoots for fps I would sure like to know . I have not killed any thing with this combo yet since I aquired it after season but my 30-06 shooting about 2920 fps and useing the 150 gr accubond did the job shooting over a alfalfa patch out to 452 yds on alarge 5.5 year old muledeer last year and otherbefore not as far tho normally
Good Luck
Wayles

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Originally posted by Thomas Jones:
Were I to buy or build a 300 whatever ,mag now I think I would go with a 168 grain tsx. Superbly acurate and deadly bullet...tj3006

I Agree - I have been using the 168 TSX for 2 seasons in my 300 wby. It is the perfect deer load. I use them for Coues deer where 300+ shots are not uncommon. I can't badmouth the 150 Partition - I just have found the 168 TSX to be a pertfect match to the 300 wby.

Roy Weathery's personal favorite bullet for the .300 Weatherby was the Remington 150 grain Bronze Point.

150's in a 300W is like putting skinny tires on a hot road, you just can't put the power to the ground.

The lightest bullet I'd run in a 300 W would be a 168 gr TSX, but when you look at trajectories, you realize the 180's and 200's are going the same velocity way out there, and still retain their weight advantage.

Once again thank you for the replies. The rifle just does not like the 180 and 200 grain offerings. I've tried the R22 and the IMR 4831 & 7828 at velocities of 2800 to 3200 with the 180 BT, and 2750 to 3005 with the 200 Accubond. Best 3 shot groups are about 1 1/2 and there is no apparent repeatability. This rifle is driving me nuts, as there is nothing visably wrong. Have tried a different scope, and check all screws and cleaned the hades out of it. Am going to try another set of parameters tomorrow.

Finally an unqualified reason to drink... lucky man!

308Sako-

Try Reloader 19; my load for 150 grain bullets is 86 grains of Reloader 19. It seems with the lighter bullets you will need a faster powder as opposed to a slower powder.

I am getting a Muzzle velocity of just over 3600 f.p.s. and .5 MOA accuracy with this load for my .300 Weatherby.

Please start way below my load as my load is something that I worked up and is probably above max. This load really works my brass but has been a proven performer for me almost irrespective of the 150 grain bullet I use.

Good luck!!

Here's my theory......a wobbling 200 grainer that isn't accruate in your gun has NO more BC than a really accurate 150 grainer. If you are hunting long range on small game like deer with a big flat shooter go with whatever is accurate. YES I would tend to prefer a longer heavier bullet with all things equal. BUT again, accuracy is king and will show you "astonishing" flatness if it's shooting "straight and narrow" I have a 30-378 that happens to like the 150 xbt. A couple of years ago I shot a 6x6 elk at a whopping 80 yards with a quartering shot that exited through the off shoulder. The 150 x bullet was never to be found and if I had to make a bet I'd say it shed ALL OF IT'S PETALS in the first 4-8" of the elk. The off shoulder was so pulverized the guys in my hunting party couldn't believe it. Believe me....if it's ok to shoot 150's out of 270 wsm's and 7mm wsm's.....it's ok to let a deer have it with a 150 grain 30 cal.

Well, I tried the 150 Nosler BT's today and got slightly better results than with the heavier bullets. Velocities were 3355 for 86 grains of R22, and 3309 with 87.5 of IMR 7828. Slight tendency to cluster, but then when reshot... pattern not group. I am beginning to think this one has a demon in the clutch housing! Since the last 2 of 4 bullets in the first load of 86/R22/150BT went into 1 hole I immediately went in and loaded another 3 of the same thinking that the bore fouled and finally something it likes. I should have known better. Using everything as it was, the second 3 rounds ran at 3283 ft/sec's... 72 ft/sec slower???? They also didn't shoot. If I was a novice I would chalk it up to reloading not being what others claim, but while the .300 was cooling I also shot the 257 Ai into .4 MOA with Sierra 117's for ten rounds! That was what made the day. I am glad I don't own the Weatherby, and wish my Bro-in-law would sell the damn thing and try a real rifle. I feel better now.