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I loaded up some 250 gr AB's in my M700 LSS 338 RUM and headed out to the range.
I shot two sub MOA groups. The first group went .757" c/c with the first two touching, .351" c/c. The second group went .479" c/c.
I also shot and recovered two of the 250 gr AB's from water jugs at 100 yds. Both bullets were recovered in the 6th jug, #1 opened up to .667" and weighed 143.8 grs (57.5%) and #2 measured .693" and weighed 145.3 grs (58.1%).
I think Nosler has a winner of a Long Range Game Bullet for the 338's.


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Looks like a very accurate 338 bullet. Got a finicky Remington 700 338 Win I may have to try that in.
 
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They are obviously very accurate -- congrats on working up a good load! But they sure did shed a lot of weight........ Confused



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60% retention is still ok when you start out at 250 Big Grin wicked shooting!
 
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I have shot into water jugs for years, recovering many different bullets. The impact on the first couple of jugs was most impressive, sending them 12-15 feet into the air.
The weight loss is expected and the resulting energy is devastating on the jugs. This will result in some quick kills on game.
I plan on testing at 300 yds next weekend and will post my results.

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They are obviously very accurate -- congrats on working up a good load! But they sure did shed a lot of weight........

Very similar to the Nosler Partition, actually. And I'm glad to see it. If a bullet doesn't come apart to some extent, then it's ability to inflict organ trauma is limited. In the Accubond, it sounds as if Nosler has struck the proper balance of penetration and expansion/frangibility. I'm planning to use them on elk this fall and on my next African trip.
 
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Not the FPE BS again, I use the 225 TSX in my 338 win mag and it holds near 100% wieght retension and a deadly bullets is hard to comprehend..


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When a bullet comes apart it tends not to penetrate well and penetration is the key. If it comes apart, as far as I am concerned, it has failed. They can do damage without blowing up. JMHO. Flat-nosed solids do a tremendous ammount of internal damage and tend to break bones. A frangible bullet hits bone and it may never reach the vitals.



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They are obviously very accurate -- congrats on working up a good load! But they sure did shed a lot of weight........

Very similar to the Nosler Partition, actually. And I'm glad to see it. If a bullet doesn't come apart to some extent, then it's ability to inflict organ trauma is limited. In the Accubond, it sounds as if Nosler has struck the proper balance of penetration and expansion/frangibility. I'm planning to use them on elk this fall and on my next African trip.



Now a bullet does not need to expand or come apart to be very effective.

Check out the size of this exit in the rib cage of a 6X7 Bull Elk created by a 440 Grain flat point hard Cast bullet (non expanding) at only 950 FPS muzzle velocity





It is quite apparent that a bullet need not expand or fragment to be very effective.


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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
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They are obviously very accurate -- congrats on working up a good load! But they sure did shed a lot of weight........

Very similar to the Nosler Partition, actually. And I'm glad to see it. If a bullet doesn't come apart to some extent, then it's ability to inflict organ trauma is limited. In the Accubond, it sounds as if Nosler has struck the proper balance of penetration and expansion/frangibility. I'm planning to use them on elk this fall and on my next African trip.



Now a bullet does not need to expand or come apart to be very effective.

Check out the size of this exit in the rib cage of a 6X7 Bull Elk created by a 440 Grain flat point hard Cast bullet (non expanding) at only 950 FPS muzzle velocity





It is quite apparent that a bullet need not expand or fragment to be very effective.


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Glad to see that someone else still thinks one does not need a super high velocity big bore magnum to be effective...even on big game...

impressive results for accuracy by the thread author.. but I have to admit, if I was hunting with a 338 Ultra Mag, I'd be using those 5744 loads in the Accurate Reload Manual with a plain old partition if the game was that big...

give me bullet weight and sectional density any day over high velocity when the game gets bigger..


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I went out to the range this morning, wind conditions were 22 mph gusting to 31 mph. Not the best of conditions for 300 yd load development!
I did shoot into water jugs at 300 yds and recovered 2 250 gr AB's.
#1 has an expanded diameter of .639" and weighs 148.2 grs. #2 expanded to .708" and weighed in at 148.4 grs. Both bullets were recovered in the 6th water jug.

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