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I know this forum is not about BBQ'en but where else could I get better advice? I remember the good'ole days where dad filled the weber with charcoal and a splash of oak sprigs and slapped a Flintstone sized steak on it and nurtured it better than his own kids. The result was always the same, a damn good steak! My problem is propane came into my life too long ago. Recently a friend had us over for dinner and he used charcoal and the taste IMO is far better than a propane tanned slab of beef. What I don't understand is how a match thrown out a window at 70 MPH can set a-blaze thousands of acres of lush green forest?  I go out to try and start a charcoal BBQ with 15 gallons of kerosene 5 grenades and a dozen road flares and I still can't get the S.O.B. lit!  I'm feeling like my man-hood is on the line here on this but any help in getting a nice glowing charcoal BBQ with those nice gray embers would be appreciated! | ||
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Get one of these and you'll have charcoal ready to go in 5 minutes or less.  Propane is cheaper than starter fluid, quicker and no lingering odor on your steaks. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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If you are using lighter fluid (to complement the kerosene and road flares!) let it soak into the briquettes before lighting. Just 3 or 4 minutes makes a huge difference. A friend has had good success with one of the tower gizmos---looks like a coffee can with a handle and openings on the bottom. It's stuffed newspaper on the bottom and charcoal on top. The newspaper is lit and left to smolder for ten minutes or so, and then the charcoal is dumped out. But I prefer the simplicity of propane. LWD | |||
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These work a lot better if you add just enough cooking oil to barely dampen the newspaper (before adding the charcoal). ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Lump mesquite charcoal is the best stuff on earth for BBQing steaks. I buy it by the 50lb bag, but Lazzari brand is pretty good. I use one of the chimney starters. You can get them at Home Depot or just about any hardware store that sells BBQs. A rolled up paper grocery bag will get the coals started in just a few minutes. The mesquite burns hotter than the flames of hell, so I just sear the outside then finish via indirect heat. I buy beef from Bryan Flannery, and "almost" refuse to order steak in a restaurant anymore because it just doesn't compare. | |||
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Bryan has a website full of great information even if you don't plan on ordering online. Thanks for sharing that; I'll be placing an order. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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Liquid oxygen. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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lump charcoal rocks - nothing finer. briquettes are ok but one you try lump you won't go back. chimney starters rock. once you give one of them a try, you won't go back, either. for a ton of other barbecue information, follow this link below: http://foodsoftheworld.activeb...ked-foods-and-curing enjoy! ron | |||
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All excellent advise! I like lump charcoal as well. I have one of those propane torches like ForrestB. Perhaps I could toss the charcoal in the BBQ and torch it right there? It's the weekend, I'll give it a go! Thanks all.... | |||
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you should be able to - no reason i can think of not too. if you're not already familiar with the "minion method" of barbecuing with cahrcoal, take a look at it - it works well, especially with lump charcoal! | |||
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Just a word of caution, be prepared to have the urge to spit out any supermarket bought steaks after trying some of Bryan's. Ask for Bryan when you call, he is a fantastic resource for choosing the right cut, right size and cooking tips. He keeps a stash of extended aged beef if you ask. I normally like around 28 to 30 days, but he has some 42+ day aged beef that some guys go crazy for. Don't take my word for it either, ask Duane. I sent him a box of steaks from Bryan a few months ago. | |||
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I won the interdepartmental science faculty BBQ lighting competion '99 at uni with LOX. There are one or two practical problems, but don't let that put you off. Firstly, in my experience, one needs about 25 kg of raw charcoal for every 250 grammes of buring product. This is managable, if a little wastful, but thwe chief difficulty is gathering said lit charcoal from the 20 metre radius of effect. You need an oil drum with both ends cut off. 1. Fill with charcoal 2. place flask of LOX on top of pile. 3. break flask from distance with air rifle. 4. trigger remote ignition device, I use estes model rocket lauchers. 5. Catiously raise head over concrete parapet you were hopefully hiding behind. 6 Send minions to gather buring charcoal. Otherwise use only the best lumpwood, briquettes are truly the work of the devil, and build it into a rough pyramid. At the base of the pyramid place a few fire lighters or tip about half a pint of lighter fluid on the coals near the base and let it soak. Light the firelighters or lighter fluid and let them burn out. Observe the white areas of nascent combustion on the charcoal, now move the lit coals so that they touch others, very important, cover with a few more and provide air, either with the wife's hairdryer or by flapping with a bit of cardboard. the heat should travel up and assisted by the air light the whole pyramid. give the whole thing a stir, level it out and wait for the flames to die. Voila! | |||
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The only two items that you need to get a bunch of charcoal started are. . . A Weber Rapid Fire Chimney Starter  filled with your favorite Lump or regular Charcoal sitting on top of one of these. . Weber Liter Cubes.  Place one cube on the charcoal grate and lite. Place a filled chimney on top of the lite cube and walk away. 10-20 minutes later you have a roaring chimney filled with hot charcoal. Be sure and wear gloves when empting the contents onto the grate. Add more charcoal if needed. Nothing to it! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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One of you good 'ol boys must have tried napalm?! Anyone? | |||
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Not naplam, but when I was involved in phragmites( that tall reedy grass you see all over wetlands) control we needed to conduct prescibed burns after the herbicide browned things off. We used a spreader system from the helicopter which dispensed ping pong balls filled with accelerant through a lighter. One or two passes over your charcoal pile should light'er up. Wish I had taken a few pictures. Bfly Work hard and be nice, you never have enough time or friends. | |||
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I was thinking of a university competition when I wrote that. It was a news blurb and I don't remeber all the specifics but I do remember the winners used LOX and several competitors had their Webers melt from under the conflagration. Winning time was under a couple of seconds IIRC. There may now be an international comopetition and I bet there is a World record in Guiness. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Well I used the forrestB method (propane torch) on my lump charcoal and it worked excellent! Built a small pyramid with the lump charcoal torched it all around for about 3 or 4 minutes and it was on its own. Let it go for about 10 minutes then knocked down the pyramid to a perfect glow! Thanks a ton! A bunch of great posts! | |||
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Well, first off .. get yourself some decent " Lump Charcoal " & then decide on getting yourself a good " BBQ GRILL/ SMOKER ". Charcoal Review. http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lump.htm Big Green Egg, World's Best Smoker and Grill. http://www.biggreenegg.com/ ROASTED SUCKLING PIGGY: Done my way , using the " Big Green Egg ".. !   11.5 lbs Roasted Suckling Pig /3 hrs @ 350 Degrees / Very Moist & Tender.  Grilled Marinated Game Hens.  The " EGG " has been the easiest, friendlest , most versitile " BBQ / Grill / Smoker ", I've personally used.. 1. Slow Cooker/Smoker (w/Charcoal). 2. High Heat for Searing meats (700+ Deg) 3. I can cook with almost anything that will burn: Wood / Charcoal, etc. My only regret.. not getting the " Extra Large Egg " ) : PAPI  | |||
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I have always been a hard corps charcoal user, but this summer I bought one of the combination rigs with gas on one side, and charcoal on the other. Added on a smoker box for real slow cooking. I like it, and one of the best features is the side burner - I fill the chimney with charcoal, set it on the burner and hit the on button. No matches, no stinky lighter fluid, and not even any newspaper. The propane burner gets the coals going in just a few minutes. Pretty slick set up. | |||
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fire starters made from dryer-lint stuffed into segmented egg cartons, covered in parrafin make great all weather bbq fires... go big or go home ........ DSC-- Life Member NRA--Life member DRSS--9.3x74 r Chapuis | |||
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Hey WhatThe, If you can locate any "Fat Lighter" out there on the Leftist Coast, your problem will be totally solved. Fat Lighter comes from dead Pine Trees. It is created when the Sap begins rising into them and is basically Pine wood completely saturated with Turpentine. Only takes a couple of "Pencil" size pieces to get a rip-roaring Fire going. You simply stack your stuff atop the Fat Lighter and light it with a match. | |||
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Great candidate for a Darwin Award. | |||
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Electric starters work really well. In a motel parking lot, the Webber Smokey'Joe and an electric starter will turn a bad fast food place dinner into a nice grilled steak with the fixings, and it's often chaper then fast food too.  Best Regards, Sid All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it. Alexis de Tocqueville The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. Alexis de Tocqueville | |||
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Weber makes a charcoal BBQ that has a propane starter built in. It works great. Just fill the baskets on the lower level with charcoal and start the propane. In 5 min or so your charcoal will be started and turn off the propane. In another 15 min put on your deer steaks which you have marinated in 2 Tbs of olive oil, 1/4 cup balsamic vinegar and some garlic. Cook steaks about 4 min on a side and enjoy! Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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