Hi, I looked in the manual and searched AR, but found nothing special about cleaning the Rem TriNyte coated rifle barrels. So is the barrel interior not coated? If it is, can I use a brass brush, or should I use a nylon brush? I've been cleaning rifles for 40 years so please let's not make this thread a religious war about the correct way to do general rifle barrel cleaning. Just want to know if I have to do anything special (do's and don'ts) cleaning a TriNyte rifle.

Thanks!

Try to contact remington. My guess is that the inside of the barrel is just bare steel. Even if there was a coating, it would get worn off by the bullets traveling down the barrel.

Thanks, I'll call them tomorrow. We shot Saturday, the rifle can wait one more day to get cleaned ...

The inside of glock barrels are coated in tennifer just like the out side and that doesn't wear away from shooting.

I do not imagine that the interior of the XCR II barrel is coated with the same stuff as the exterior.

I do not own a XCR II, but I do own two of the previous version, the XCR. I have been cleaning them just as I do any other rifle barrel. I use a brass brush with solvents like Butch's, but switch to a nylon brush when using CR-10 or Sweets.

My buddy owns an XCR II and after testing some loads in it I used my regular cleaning procedures including brass brushes.

It's a coating on the outside, just like teflon. http://www.remington.com/sitec...n/pages/trinyte.aspx

http://www.remington.com/sitec...odel-700-xcr-ii.aspx

Just talked to Remington:

1. The TriNyte is a Physical Vapour Deposition (PVD) process. It's not like teflon, PVD coatings are used on high speed drills, engine parts, scapels etc. As such it should be pretty durable.

2. The inside of the barrel is coated as well. It wouldn't make much sense really to coat the outside metal of the rifle and leave the most important part (the barrel) to rust. What would be the point? Remington said, just use normal cleaning. A brass brush is just fine. The TriNyte will not be adversely affected by normal cleaning procedures, since bullets traveling at 3000 fps through it don't harm the finish.

Anyway, thought you guys might want to know.

Wouldn't you know, I think I'm going to be be buying one of these XCRs in a 280 remington. If they coated the inside of the barrel, wouldn't it decrease the diameter of the bore? not that remington would take the time to close of the bore for the process, but ....
If it is inside the bore and doesn't ware away with shooting, then this is great because all the metal is covered with no openings or oxidization to occur.

If the coating does cover the bore, this might explain the better accuracy people seem to be getting from the xcr rifles as it would fill in or smooth out the tooling marks in a barrel from the rifle cutting process.

So far I'm very happy with mine. I'll be shooting some 250g Swift A-Frame handloads this weekend, then I'll start loading my 350g Woodleigh PPs that just came in. I asked Remington twice, no doubt, the inside of the bore is coated as well. It's thickness is microscopic but it's really not a coating it's a bonding process and is part of the metal. They said cleaning should be easier, the barrel's might even be "faster" we'll see soon.

let us know how it shoots. They had a few in cabelas in 30-06 on the clearance rack for $750 because the stock has some discoloration. I asked them how much it would cost for them to order me one in 280. They'll get back to me, soon hopefully.

Will do

Re: coated or not and rusting.... I know the Model 7 XCR's used per Rem, Stainless action and barrel.......I know some say SS will/can rust, but never seen/heard anyone having interior rusting inside a SS bore.

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Originally posted by chuck375:
Just talked to Remington:

1. The TriNyte is a Physical Vapour Deposition (PVD) process. It's not like teflon, PVD coatings are used on high speed drills, engine parts, scapels etc. As such it should be pretty durable.

2. The inside of the barrel is coated as well. It wouldn't make much sense really to coat the outside metal of the rifle and leave the most important part (the barrel) to rust. What would be the point? Remington said, just use normal cleaning. A brass brush is just fine. The TriNyte will not be adversely affected by normal cleaning procedures, since bullets traveling at 3000 fps through it don't harm the finish.

Anyway, thought you guys might want to know.

the XCR's are coated EXTERNALLY to prevent corrosion in harsh conditions.

"leaving the inside to rust"? the XCR's are specially coated STAINLESS STEEL rifles.

It's easy to protect the inside of a barrel against rust... a small piece of electrical tape accomplishes that... it's the OUTSIDE that is generally harder to protect.

Particularly on the non-exposed parts of the action...

AD

Don't argue your point that with electrical tape on the muzzle and the bolt closed, it's pretty easy to keep salt and water out. Still, Remington told me point blank that both the outside and inside of the barrel have the TriNyte coating as well as all of the exposed metal.

Fact is, SOO many people at Rem can't get on the same page, so info from printed catalog/website specs to verbal info may not be consistent.

Either way, I would not worry about ANY rust in a SS bbl unless you store it in salt water.

Now that I know it isn't a coating, but infact vapor deposition, I decided to get one hopefully this one will be accurate for me

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Originally posted by gohip2000:
Now that I know it isn't a coating, but infact vapor deposition, I decided to get one hopefully this one will be accurate for me

I had some quality control issues with mine. The bolt closed very hard on factory cartridges (Remingtons!). I could've sent it back to Remington for warranty repair, but instead took it to my gunsmith Keviw Weaver. The extractor was too large! So I'm having him put a Sako extractor in (his recommendation) as well as do a few other things while he had it (weld the bolt handle on and rechamber to 375 Weatherby). Hope yours works out of the box!

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Originally posted by chuck375:
Don't argue your point that with electrical tape on the muzzle and the bolt closed, it's pretty easy to keep salt and water out. Still, Remington told me point blank that both the outside and inside of the barrel have the TriNyte coating as well as all of the exposed metal.

That may or may not be so, but still the parent metal on all Remington XCR's is 416L stainless steel so I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep worrying about it.

a coated Cr-Mo rifle might leave with cause to worry, an additional coating on S/S?

AD

I've had 416 stainless rifles rust very easy in MN where there isn't salt water. They seem to rust about the same as my blued rifles. The freezing to thawing temperature throughout the day does wonders for rust with condensation. my ruger went from rust free to spot rust everywhere from one ride from the deerstand to home in the trunk. It was well oiled that morning before the hunt, wiped down after the hunt, and was in the trunk for a few hours. And, no I didn't put the rifle in an enclosed case to hold the moister in.
Others may have no need for the trynite, but I do. just hope there isn't any other problems with the rifle, but I'm giving Remington a second chance.

I wish you the best of luck. I can tell you my XCR II in 375 H&H at 7 3/8 lbs with scope had less felt recoil than my 9 lb CZ 550 in 375 H&H. It must be the stock. I expect it to be very accurate. I hope yours is better out of the box than mine though.

Cabelas had one in back in the caliber I wanted. I asked to look at it and he handed me a 30-06 off the shelf and said their all the same. I told him the design is all the same, but every rifle is different and some have flaws. He got the 338 win for me. I checked the crown first, function of the bolt and trigger, an the barrel lay centered in the stock. I haven't shot it yet as I'm waiting for my scope mount to come in. It does feed fine, chamber fine, and eject fine. Hopefully it will be accurate. Thanks for the comparison on the recoil. I've owned CZ in a 375 and 416, well the recoil is not painful, you do have to pay attention to your form. With what you described this should be a gun I can fire just as easily as my 270.

I think when selling a gun, they should let you cycle a few rounds to make sure it functions.(I know they can't cause some fool would pull the trigger) I have had 4 amazingly accurate rugers, but 2 of them had major issues, (both 375 ruger) One would jam or bend the cartridge trying to get it to feed, and the other one had a bolt you had to hammer open after firing factory rounds.
Seems like a crap shoot with a lot of brands
Hope it all works out for you. It's nice to see someone trying the 375 weatherby. always wished I would have tryed that one out

oh, how do you like your 500 jeffery. I have no need for one, but still had the itch and almost bought a CZ in that caliber to have fun with at the range.

I like the hell out of my 500 Jeffery. I let it hurt me shooting form the bench without a lead sled one Saturday, but I've learned better. I always use a lead sled off of the bench now and it's painless. My 500 Jeff is very accurate (sub MOA), recoil offhand is brisk, but I find shooting it offhand or kneeling a lot of fun. Mine is heavy (11.25 lbs with scope) it has two recoil reducers in the stock. My pet load is 105g H4895 behind a 570g TSX for 2410 fps. It makes an impression!
I'm taking it hog hunting with my son this summer, he'll be shooting the 375 Weatherby lol

Here's a picture of my friend holding my 500 Jeffery coming back from the range:



Here's a 3 shot group taken at 50 yards shooting 570g TSX at 2410 fps

Chuck

Thanks for the info on the TriNite barrel. I recently acquired one in 338 WM, always wondered what the correct cleaning procedure for the barrel was.

RM

No problem, a call to Remington was all it took.

I'd definitely be happy with with that accuracy. those TSX are some amazingly accurate bullets

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Originally posted by chuck375:
I like the hell out of my 500 Jeffery. I let it hurt me shooting form the bench without a lead sled one Saturday, but I've learned better. I always use a lead sled off of the bench now and it's painless. My 500 Jeff is very accurate (sub MOA), recoil offhand is brisk, but I find shooting it offhand or kneeling a lot of fun. Mine is heavy (11.25 lbs with scope) it has two recoil reducers in the stock. My pet load is 105g H4895 behind a 570g TSX for 2410 fps. It makes an impression!
I'm taking it hog hunting with my son this summer, he'll be shooting the 375 Weatherby lol

Here's a picture of my friend holding my 500 Jeffery coming back from the range:



Here's a 3 shot group taken at 50 yards shooting 570g TSX at 2410 fps