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Well, I resisted for a long time, but now I've acquired a pre-fitted barrel for a Mauser, chambered in 9.3x64. The deal was too good to pass up. It so happens that I have an FN to put it on. I bought a bottom metal/magazine that is made for magnum cartridges, with follower. It was expensive, but it seems to be good with the 9.3x64 too, and allows four down.

It's not that I really need another medium bore, but I've read and heard nothing but good praise for this cartridge. Should be fun to work with.

KB


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WooHoo!!!! You're gonna love it!! Talk to snowman or Atkinson for loading data.
 
Posts: 3785 | Location: B.C. Canada | Registered: 08 November 2005Reply With Quote
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Welcome to the 9.3x64 club. beer
 
Posts: 1374 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 10 February 2005Reply With Quote
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Kabluewy Don't wait til you have your rifle all together before you start looking for components.Check with Huntingtons for dies a shellholder and brass. For one all round bullet I would suggest the 286 gr Partion. I've found that 4320 is very good in my 9.3x64.
 
Posts: 2447 | Location: manitoba canada | Registered: 01 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Thanks for the encouragement.

I have inquired about dies, brass, etc, and Huntington is a good reliable source. CH4D, Redding, and RCBS, and others make dies/shellholder. I have no experience with CH4D, but have heard they make good dies.

Seems like the only brand of brass is RWS. I'm sure the assembly of the rifle is several months away until completion, based on the normal pace of my gunsmith. I'll stock up on some brass meanwhile.

A friend gave me 10 pieces or so, and I made up some dummy rounds. They are quite impressive. I tried feeding them in several of my Mausers, and found that they almost fed correctly in several rifles. I can see how little tweeking it would take to get correct feeding.

I think that magnum magazine I bought is going to work like magic. It has a follower made for the belted magnum brass, and the magazine is just slightly wider than standard, especially up front.

I have been collecting parts for this project for several years - FN Mauser action, NECG three-position safety and trigger, Blackburn bottom metal, and now the barrel. This action assembly had been on my mind for so long, and with such indecision. I really wanted to make it into something special, because I could buy a good factory rifle - maybe two good used rifles - for what I've got in the action parts alone - unassembled. I could have made it into any of the medium belted magnums, but somehow that seemed boring. Now I'm happy it worked out this direction. The 9.3x64 ain't boring, and this rifle is going to be a fine firearm when finished.

I'm still undecided about the stock though.

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Th3 9,3x64 screams wood stock. Given where you live I woulg laminate with an epoxy finish.

I would go with 250 gr triple shok for an all around bullet


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10181 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Kabluewy My first dies were CH4D and they are excellent. I later picked up a set of Lyman dies in 9.3x64 and there is nothing wrong with them either. CH4D are very resonable. Hirtenberger?? also makes brass in 9.3x64. I have no experience with it but I can tell you RWS is some of the best brass you will find anywhere at any price. I have also formed cases from 458 win (338can also be used) but that is a little work. You are right in saying it is a slick round. 375 H&H power in a std length action and the slick feeding of a rimless case.Whatever bullet you choose to shoot is obviously your call. Just remember that some 9.3 cal bullets are made for the 9.3x62 and may not hold together at speeds the 9.3x64 can generate. I have good results from the 250 gr Nosler BT (very accurate) 286 Partition. 293 gr TUG and the 250 and 300 gr Swift A-frame bullets. My rifle is built on a mauser 98 action and it could use a little more magazine length with the heavier bullets. Since you live in Alaska I would think you may use that rifle on moose & bears. The 286 gr Partition has quite a high ballistic coefficient and delivers a lot of energy way out there with a pretty decent trajectory. As Mike has pointed out the TSX bullets would also be very good. However being slightly longer for their weight than most bullets I thought they may be a little tight for space ,either in my magazine or in the case. The 300 gr Swift would be excellent if you plan on a close encounter with a big bear. They penetrate like crazy and they hold together. The Partition penetrates well and shoots a little flatter and groups very well in my rifle. That is why I would make it the all
round bullet in my rifle. Hope some of this helps and let us know how things work out.
 
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JMHO, but Grafs has the prvi 286gr bullets for about $22 per hundred...the best answer for getting used to full house loads.

Rich
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Idaho I've never used the prvi bullets so I don't know much about them. I suspect they will be quite soft . But at that price they are certainly cheap enough. Good enough for practice like you said.
 
Posts: 2447 | Location: manitoba canada | Registered: 01 March 2001Reply With Quote
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Just in case anybody is interested, I have a set of brand new (custom?) 9.3x64 Hornady dies. They were erroneously sent to me after I ordered a set of custom 8x64S dies Roll Eyes, so I have never used them. I believe the die set includes a FL and a seater (no NS).

If you are interested, PM or mail me (mail address in my profile). I'm sure we could work something out.

- mike

P.S. OK, I know I probably should have posted this in "Classified", but I never really thought of selling these before this discussion.


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Mike, we need to talk!
 
Posts: 1210 | Location: Zurich | Registered: 02 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Ah, a potential Zurich customer, that would save on postage.... Smiler Are you planning a 9.3x64?? It is a grand cartridge, if one can handle the recoil.

- mike


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Are you planning a 9.3x64?? It is a grand cartridge, if you can handle the recoil.


Yes, on one of the Mauser actions currently in the US. At least if I had a set of dies it would be more of a certaintly. Wink

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I have used the 9.3x64 a bit in Africa and found it to be a great caliber, but at the time brass was a problem so I went to the 9.3x62 and it became my sweethart for a time. Both are great calibers but I think I still prefer the 9.3x62 because the velocity gain of the 9.3x64 over the 9.3x62 was not what I expected it to be. I only gained about 100 FPS at the most and more like 50 to 75 FPS average.

Today brass availability for the 9.3x64 is still tough by comparison, but much better than it was, so the good 9.3x64 has more appeal.

At any rate its a grand caliber and fun to play and hunt with.


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Posts: 42314 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
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286gn@2700 ....optimistic?


Kablewy,
Just out of interest sake,Looking through the ERA-Recknagel catalog, they have bottom metal setups that give 6rnd capacity.
 
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286gn@2700


ouch!



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The is a custom 9.3x64 for sale on Westley Richards web site. It is based on a Remington 700...Wink
 
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