Today my wife brought me home a new Bar safari in .270 win., No boss, shiney stock, nice wood.(birthday) Now I need some advice. I'm going ask several questions, please help me out.

1. How do you rate the .270 as a deer only cal.and what
factory loads would be best for accuracy , vel.




2. If I reload for it, what combination of powder and
bullet(130 or 140) would be best for deer, give good
vel. and accuracy without tearing up the Bar semi. ?

3. How could I get the shine off the stock without
a complete refinish job.

4. what has bewen your experience with the .270 on
deer with shots from 50 yd to 350 yds ?

5. How high should I sight in at 100 yds to make a
clean kill at say 300 yds with a factoy load?

6. This .270 Bar has me a little befuddled, I used a
.270 forty yrs ago in a bolt rifle but not a semi.
I have use my short bbl(20") bar in .30-06 for years
with excellent results. Don't know what to
expect now with all the loads available. I'm stuck
with the Bar so
Any help greatly appreciated.

Well you know that if you reload a BAR you should use small base sizing dies right? Use IMR4350, AA3100 or H4350 for the auto to start.

To answer your questions...well, only YOU can figure out what factory ammo will shoot in YOUR rifle. You'll have to let us know what worked in your gun, not the other way around. Sorry.

Leave the stock alone. Don't worry about the shine. It will keep it's value more.

Sight it in a 2.5" high at 100. Then at 300 yards or so aim on the topline of your deer, maybe a smidge over. Best thing to do is shoot all those distances and see where you hit once you've picked a load.

How would I rate the 270 as a deer rifle? Well, I think it is the #1 choice, but I like 5'2" brunettes with medium boobs and a great ass and legs. To each his own. The next post may be from a guy who prefers a great big set of boobs.

I've killed well into the hundreds of whitetail and mulie with the 270 from 8 feet off the muzzle to beyond 300 yards. NEVER EVER lost one. My brother has also killed almost as many deer as me with the same results and from a featherweight Ruger 270.

I don't think you'll have ANY replies stating that the 270 is NOT a great deer rifle caliber. If you do, let me know. I'll put my arm around them and educate 'em quick.

Bullet choice...ahhh bullet choice. All I can share with you is my experiences, and all were superb but were handloads. I've never taken a deer with factory ammo, ever:

130, 140, 150 Nosler Ballistic Tip
130 Triple Shock (#1 choice)
130 Scirocco (#2)
140 Sierra Hollow Point Boat Tail
150 Speer Spitzer
130 Partition (#3)
130 Hornady SST
130 Hornady Interlock
130 Sierra boat tail

Your choices are so vast. I don't think a deer will go far with a well placed shot from a .270. They never did for me.

358 congratulations ,

a) for the new bar and
b) for your ability to pick a helluva wife.

to answer your questions imo

1) don't quite understand deer only. i have taken deer from 20yds out to 250yds with my m77 in .270 and while i have never had one drop dead in its tracks they have never ran very far when hit in the kill zone. as doc said you will have to experiment with factory loads and handloads. to find what your bar likes

2) i have only used 130 grain bullets and use h4831 powder
works great in my m77. i do not think this will hurt your bar unless you overload the case with powder.

3) i do not know. you may want to ask seafire he hangs out alot in small calibre

4) see 1

5) doc answered it 2.5" at 100 aim at the ridge of back past 250

6) what exactly has you befuddled ? as to what to expect try several different brands and weights of ammo and shoot the bar will let you know what it likes as to accuracy. as to terminal results i can only tell you about 130grn bullets as that is all i use.

hope this helps

arky65

Everything that Doc said except I like the Teutonic-tit-willow types. Try factory Winchester Power Points and Remington Core Lockts. If your rifle doesn't shoot them, it won't shoot anything. jorge

I had a bar in .270. It was a tack driver and I never should have sold it. Mine had the "boss" on it and I didn't like the noise. You'll tell me I'm full of it but it didn't matter what you fed it......it would put 130-150 grainers all to the same point of impact. Just a trick I found out on the shiney finish. Get a little car wax on it from time to time and it will protect it well. If you get deep scratches in it I found that a little "flitz" metal polish on a soft rag would "erase" them.
Let us know how it turns out. You have a very very nice gun!!

I have one of the early BAR 270's and it is very accurate. There's no reason that the current production shouldn't also be accurate. My rifle doesn't require small base dies, and I really doubt that yours should either. I haven't loaded for it in quite a while since a friend gave me a large quantity of Remington 130 Spitzer Corlocts which shoot exceedingly well in it and most recently accounted for three pigs from a single magazine at over 200 yards.

While original surplus 4831 has always been my favorite for a .270, this rifle exhibits excessive port pressures with a powder this slow. I would limit my powder to nothing slower than 4350 and keep loads to a grain or two under bolt rifle maximums -- not that the action wouldn't take heavier loads, but your brass will last longer and give you less reloading problems if you don't try to wring the last FPS out of every load. You can still top 3000 fps with a 130, which is all you need or want for deer.

The BAR is one of the very few semi-auto rifles that I find of real interest. I think you'll like it.

Question 3 on stock finish is the real problem here. It's a fine gun in a good caliber, I have a gr.IV in 270 that shoots pretty well.

The finish is very tenacious, it just doesn't want to come off easily. You'll need to use a reasonably strong stipper, then if all goes well a simple raising the grain one time and getting the whiskers off with 400-600 grit paper and you can refinish. You need to remove the stock to protect the rest of the gun though. I've seen people that just tried to dull the finish with sandpaper or steel wool and it never looks good.

I took the shine off my 1885 with very fine sandpaper[600 grit]and water, it came out fine !

Wife got you a new Browning BAR huh? We should all be so lucky. Hold on to that woman! Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

The most accurate load I've shot in a .270 BAR was 60gr's of H-4831, win case 130gr Nosler solid base, win primer. Not to hot, case life good, no high port pressure, and 1/2" 3 shot groups.