Do any of you folks have experience hunting with the 300 win mag using the 200 grain Accubond?

A good freind is using it for elk this year.

Andy

As you know one issue with the 300 Win Mag in rifles with shorter length actions is that some bullets cannot be seated far enough out in this cartridge such that there is enough parallel part of the bullet to be gripped by the case neck sides.

I'll echo E.S.'s concerns about magazine length. Many .300 Winchesters are built on actions with magazines designed for .30-06-length cartridges and are thus rather restricted in OAL for the longer .300. If your magazine is in the 3.35" range like lots of them, then you may find the long Accubond a problem. If you have a "full length" magazine of around 3.6" or so, then you can seat the bullet out where it belongs.

In reality, I don't think you'll find much advantage with the 200 on elk over the 180 Accubond. The 180 will give you all of the penetration you can use and either will provide adequate upset to traumatize the vital organs.

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Originally posted by Stonecreek:
I'll echo E.S.'s concerns about magazine length. Many .300 Winchesters are built on actions with magazines designed for .30-06-length cartridges and are thus rather restricted in OAL for the longer .300. If your magazine is in the 3.35" range like lots of them, then you may find the long Accubond a problem. If you have a "full length" magazine of around 3.6" or so, then you can seat the bullet out where it belongs.

In reality, I don't think you'll find much advantage with the 200 on elk over the 180 Accubond. The 180 will give you all of the penetration you can use and either will provide adequate upset to traumatize the vital organs.

I took my 06-AI with 200gr AB for a bear hunt. Anchored a 7ft bear like it was nothing. One shot, didn't even move a foot. Bullet passed thru and killed quick.

Even thought I went w the 200gr I would, if doing the same hunt again, feel more that adequeate with the 180gr AB. Add the extra power of the 300WM and that's some pretty damn good distance and power for Elk.

Good luck! Happy Hunting!!

As a general rule, the limits of the .300WM is 180gr bullets effectively due to shorter magazine box. There are a few exceptions, one being the Sauer 202, and I'm sure there are others.

If you want a .300 mag that best shoots the 200-220gr bullets, then go with the .300H&H, the most versatile of the .300 mag cartridges regarding handling heavier bullets, slickest feeding, and easiest to reload. Plus, you get a real classic to boot.

FWIW, my standard load for my 300mag is a 200gr Speer Grand Slam at a little under 2900fps. A great deal was/has been made over the short neck of the 300WM but I never had a problem with it. I set the length to feed dead nuts reliably from the magazine and called it happy. IMO, folks that angst about stuff like that have a lot of time on their hands.

My 300WM shoots 180gr Accubond reloads..LOVE THE PERFORMANCE!!

I did try some reloads with the 200gr AB's and TSX back in 2005, but stuck to the 180's.

4 of us in my moose/elk hunting group shoot 300WM/300WSM (3/1). All shoot 180gr Accubonds. My reloads will work for my buddies as we all have Sako km75ss 300WM and I have reloaded for them. Lately been too busy last 2 seasons so they been using the factory Winchester Supreme 180 AB's.

My 300WM Sako 85 Gray Wolf has a 3.66” long magazine so there is no problem reloading 200-220 gr. bullets in a Sako. I have used the 180 gr. Accubond for years now and I’m very pleased with the performance.

I shoot a Win Model 70 Classic Stainless in 300 Win, and it feeds 200 gr Swift A-Frames and 220 gr. Hornadys with no problem, and voth are VERY accurate in this rifle. The AB shouldnt pose a problem.

I'm sure it will work most of the time, especially on broadside standing shots, but then so will a 25-35 under those conditions, its not but about 12 to 14 inches thru and elk broadside..

I settled long ago on two bullets for my 300s, the 200 gr. Nosler partition and the 200 gr. woodleighs..The 180 Nosler partition in the 06.

I hunt the thick stuff, the black timber swamp holes in the Selway. I think all shots are going south on the elk there or they are long shots across a big big canyon..The 200 gr. Nosler and Woodleighs will break the hip joint, pelvis, whatever and get into the boiler room and tear up a lot of elk..the 250 Nosler or 300 gr. Woodliegh in my .338 is even better.

I would not feel comfortable with the Accubond as I have seen them expand big time in elk on broadside shots and stop on the off side skin perfectly mushroomed, good performance for sure but I have suspecion on full length body shots. I suspect they would work better out of an 06 at 2600 FPS under these circumstances..The 180 and 200 gr. Nosler partition, in a 30-06 at 2500 to 2700 FPS respectively will go lengthwise through the biggest bull elk..I'm always amazed at the old 06, and I am always amazed how well bullets work at 2600 to 2800 FPS, no proof or that, just observation.

I've used alot of Speer 200 gr in my 300 Win. No problems at all. Actually took a South American (Asian) water buffalo with this load a few years ago. While I DO NOT recommend shooting buffalo with a 300 Win, it was what I had in my hands at the time and it worked, finally.
Problem I see with the 200 gr Acubond is that it is a longer bullet than the Speer and might not be a good a choice as the 180 Acubond that I have come to love. The 180 is the only bullet weight I shoot now in my 300 Win. I use the heavier bullets in my 300 H&H but I really don't need anything more than the 180 for deer, elk and such. Unless you absolutely NEED the 200 gr weight, I'd go with the 180 and never look back.

I used the 200 grain version of the accubond in my .300 Winchester Mag for three seasons. I killed two elk with it. A raghorn 5x5 and a cow. The bull was quartering towards me at 30 yards and I put it right on the shoulder as I didn't want him to make a break into the hell hole below me. I bore clear through that shoulder leaving a quarter to half dollar sized hole all the way through it and then into the boiler room. I found the bullet in the body cavity rolling around in the blood. Impact velocity was right at 3000 fps. The second was a cow. I shot her as she was trotting away, downhill from me, but going slightly uphill. Bullet entered where the hind quarters hinge, broke her back and angled up through the loin for about 16 inches before comeing to rest.

I switched to the 180 grain version of the accubond in 2006 and have shot elk each of the years since, plus one my brother in law shot with my gun and I have yet to recover a bullet...

Either one will do just fine, but I certainly prefer the 180 grain version.

Most any gun that a 300 win mag is chambered in will have a 3.6"+ mag box. With a Winchester you have to remove the spacer, but Remington's are good to go as is as are Sako's.