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| quote: Originally posted by derf9.3: Gentlemen, am i crazy or am i mis informed. Are not model 77's suppose to be control round feed actions? If so, i have two that are upside down. One left handed and one right handed. All you 77 owners please look carfully and tell me i am not crazy. I just noticed it and have owned both for years and never even payed attention to the slot cut on the bolt that should make it a control round feed action. I looked at all 3 of my winchesters and they are i80 out from the ruger's. Tell me if i have messed up bolts or not. Please help. Thanks!!
I'm not sure if I'm reading you correctly but the original 77's were push feed. The final change to CRF came about with the Mark II. |
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| You are reading me correctly. I have two old style with the slide safety and one mark II and it is the same way. |
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| quote: Originally posted by derf9.3: You are reading me correctly. I have two old style with the slide safety and one mark II and it is the same way.
You are correct, if I remember right, Ruger first introduced CRF around 1994 with the Mark II. I'm doing this strictly from memory, I have the article in my collection somewhere. The closest I ever came to owning a Ruger was just after they brought out the CRF. From the time it was ordered and the time it got to the store, the price had increased by $200. I ended up buying one of the original Savage stainless synthetics and now after fifteen years I've found no reason to change. |
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| Some of the Ruger 77's have the bolt that is capable of being machined so that it is CRF, but they are not set up this way from the factory. The bolt needs to have a slot machined into it to allow this. I don't remember which ones this can be done with.
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| Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. What a post....... where is whidbey island?????? Want to avoid at all costs......Yep the world is flat and Ruger is upside down and has been for years..............How have they sold us that upside down crap??????????????????????? |
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| Just because it has a claw extractor doesn't mean it's a CRF. The simple test:
Slowly feed the cartridge from the magazine and as soon as it pops out of the magazine it must be captured between the bolt face and the extractor lip.
It it is not then it's not a CRF! |
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| The original 77's with the tang (slide) safety were very definitely push feed... no doubt about that, and they were never promoted as being CRF. My current 77MkII is very definitely CRF as it came from the factory... as the round clears the feed lips, it's nicely captured between bolt face and extractor claw, same as a Mauser and my pre 64 W70... I think my Ruger was made in '97 or '98...
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| The early M77 mk II's were a push feed with a claw extractor. The bolt face can be modified to allow control feed.
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| Hey Buli,
if you don't know where Whidbey Island is, you need to get out more.
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| I know my Mk II is CRF but then too it's only a few years old. Ken....
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| The early MKII's were push feed also. Here we go again, without CRF, you'll die in the field, jam on trophy animal, or drop your cartridge on the ground while being charged by a ground squirell since you are diving for cover while trying to chamber a round lying on your side while in the middle of a poison-oak patch. None of this happens while carrying a CRF rifle. |
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