Some time ago I bought a case of RWS Uniclassic 30-06. I've shot a few rounds and find that it's very accurate in my rifle.
The question is, has anyone actually used it on game? RWS is not usually available in the U.S..
Do any of our European members have experience with this or any other RWS ammo?
How was the game performance?

UNI Classic is the name RWS use for the Brenner TUG, in .30 cal they are usually 181g.
I loaded these bullets in my .300Win and have shot local deer and Zambian plains game with them. They are a controlled fragmentation bullet designed in 1935
https://www.brenneke-ammunitio...ifle-ammunition/tug/
The front half disintegrates at .300 Win velocity with the tail end exiting in sub 100kg game. Once you step up to a stag or Kudu bull you start to recover the tail end in my experience.

So based on your experience, I should be able get reasonable performance out of this bullet on most North American game? I'm thinking of using it on deer, moose, black bear or hogs.

The Brenneke TUG aka RWS UNI Classic works more or less like a Nosler Partition, and is fine for the game you mention.

Having to make a choise between Nosler Parttion and RWS UNI Classic, I would go for the Partition.

By the way, the RWS EVOLUTION bullet is a capped Norma Oryx, made in Sweden and capped in Germany.

Add to that RWS brass is probably the best brass in the world as we know it! They got it down pat...I like and have used RWS brass and bullets, but never loaded factory ammo..The components are terribly expensive in the USA, probably due to export and import taxation, so I don't use it and the bullets themselves are no better than Nosler, Swift, Win. PP, Rem Corelokts and North Forks on game. The brass, as good as it is, is also expensive and Id rather use PPU, Starline, WW brass based soley on the price difference.

Have used UNI Classics in 7x65 and 7x57 a few times on Boar and Roe Deer. Accurate, hit very hard, the front bit causes massive damage to heart and lungs but the rear half continues on to leave a good exit hole. No doubt the 30 cal version would do the same.

On big animals I would use a behind shoulder shot so the damage is done to the vitals rather than nearside shoulder.

If you are going after big tough game the H-mantle is tougher and possibly better. It has a reputation as real killer for big and heavy boar and drops them quickly.

Are these any better than partitions or a-frames - well I doubt many game animals could tell the difference.

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Originally posted by Heym SR20:
Have used UNI Classics in 7x65 and 7x57 a few times on Boar and Roe Deer. Accurate, hit very hard, the front bit causes massive damage to heart and lungs but the rear half continues on to leave a good exit hole. No doubt the 30 cal version would do the same.

On big animals I would use a behind shoulder shot so the damage is done to the vitals rather than nearside shoulder.

If you are going after big tough game the H-mantle is tougher and possibly better. It has a reputation as real killer for big and heavy boar and drops them quickly.

Are these any better than partitions or a-frames - well I doubt many game animals could tell the difference.

The Brass is good and long lasting - I have had 10 reloads out of my 7x65R - last batch I loaded was showing a few cracks at the mouth so have retired this.

In the UK and Europe RWS ammo is expensive - you are looking at £40 to €80 a box of 20 depending on the load and from whom you by it. H-Mantle Bullets.

Apologies, my comments above were about the similar ID Classic, whereas you have the UNI Classic. - more details https://rws-munition.de/en/rws...hunters.html#!0/28/6

The major difference is that the UNI Classic has a tougher core and is designed for big heavy game. Ideal thus for Elk, Moose etc.

Thank you for the replies. I knew that it is quality ammunition. And have read the RWS web pages. I was just concern that the bullet might be too tough for deer and an all round use.

It is a little tougher, but it expands quickly and usually blows off the front part as did the old original Nosler partitions. penetrates extremely well but doesn't seem to leave large exit holes...It may kill a bit slower, but it kills positively..light game might run a bit more than some like, but that never bothered me much as I don't like to make hamburger with a bullet....

RWS ammo is available through NCEG on a special order basis. https://www.newenglandcustomgu...products.php?cat=781

It could be that Huntington can order as well, but I cannot verify one way or the other.

You should be fine with the Uni Classics. The ID classic makes a big hole and mess on small deer. The UNI classic is tougher, but will still cause plenty of damage. I also use the H Mantle and thats a tougher bullet and shot plenty of deer with it. It puts them down fast. Actually it picks them up and then dumps them dead.

Check out EVO from Rws, Evolutiion, a bonded bullet that is well liked by many users in several cartridges to be found.

The Evolution is worth looking at. It's a capped bullet very much like the old Westley Richards "capped" bullet of the 1920s.

A friend of mine from overseas uses this cartridge (RWS 30-06 with UNI) with success for hunting elk. 4 cartridges = 4 moose. As mentioned, the type of deformation of these bullets is different from the most modern designs. They do not form a "mushroom", the head part is destroyed, and the rear segment provides deep penetration. The residual mass is from 6 to 7 grams, with an initial mass of about 12 grams. He did mention that in one case the back core was deflected off the shoulder blade and went up, however, elk was killed on the spot since the head "shrapnel" had hit the elk in the spine.

Thank you for the photos, that is most enlightening. I still have 12 boxes of the uniclassic left. With the price and availability of RWS ammo. I doubt I'll ever get anymore. 12 boxes for hunting will last he a very long time. My practice load of a 180 SGK shoots about the same point. So I should be fine.

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Originally posted by Heym SR20:
The Brass is good and long lasting - I have had 10 reloads out of my 7x65R - last batch I loaded was showing a few cracks at the mouth so have retired this.

As others have said, RWS brass is one of the best but like all brass it needs to be annealed regularly to prevent case mouth or shoulder cracking. The brass will last a long time if this simple procedure is undertaken.
Still for common cartridges, obtaining brass is not usually an issue.
I covet my RWS 404 brass and treat it like a baby.
The original RWS TUG bullet was a dual core with the harder rear core having a pointed front end on which the softer frontal core sat. The front core expanded quickly and sloughed off the hard rear core which was contained in the jacket and gave excellent penetration.

The RWS TIG bullet was also dual core but the rear core had a u shape front end profile basically giving it a hollow point in which the frontal core sat. The front core expanded rapidly and also as it was forced into the 'hollow point' of the rear core this core also expanded. For all intents and purposes this gave a deep penetrating controlled expansion bullet.

Both TIG and TUG bullets seemed to work as intended.

The only RWS bullet I saw used that didn't perform well on goat or deer (maybe okay on small Roe deer) was the Kegelspitz or Needle Point. These expanded quite rapidly but did not penetrate too well. More a specialist bullet as I saw it that had to be matched to the right game.