Any word from Lipsey’s on 2020 exclusives?

01 February 2020, 01:03

surefire7

quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
I think it is because Ruger had a shiny new .280 AI reamer with only 150 barrels chambered on it. A Ruger No 1 dealer had a 150 rifles made up with a 25" "A" weight barrel and some of the nicest wood on a Ruger since the late 1960's.

Just got another email from Jason Cloessner at Lipseys. He mentioned the special run they did for Classic Sporting Arms in the Ruger 25" No. 1-A in 280AI. He said they sold out very quickly, and that was basically a marketing 'test run' for the round. He said that those buying this rifle mentioned that they would like to have one also in a model 77, the African in particular.

He further stated that while they would like to do an older classic caliber such as a 318WR, or a more modern round such as a 338-06, the problem is three fold. One, if the round is not SAAMI or CIP approved, it's a non-starter for them. Two, proof loads are nearly impossible to source. Without them, they cannot manufacture such rifles for the market. And Three, it is then difficult to convince ammo companies to produce ammunition for such small runs.

He reiterated that the 35 Whelen and 30-06 are high on his list because of the easy availability of all of the above three concerns.

I would personally love to see Lipseys produce rifles in some of the old classic African calibers, but I see their point. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am pumped about the 35 Whelen and 30-06 some year.

Have a good weekend folks!

01 February 2020, 01:18

surefire7

By the way, as I do not own a 280AI (but four 280 Rems. Love this round), I am not familiar with the round, so I researched it a bit. I read an article by Layne Simpson in Rifle Shooter magazine back in 2012, titled 'New and Improved: The 280 Ackley Improved'.

The information contained is probably old hat to many of you gun gurus, but was news to me, so pardon me if this reading is a waste of your time.

In short, it explained that there were two chamberings for the 280AI, and that the second one was SAAMI approved. I asked Jason at Lipseys, if the Ruger African they are making for this year, is the latter one, that is SAAMI approved, and that I could use any factory ammo for it such as Nosler. He said 'yes' it was, and that we can shoot Nosler, Hornady, and Federal ammo with no problems or concerns.

Good news! To me at least...

01 February 2020, 02:01

cjfoster

How would we go about getting an ammo company to make 318 WR ammo? Would be nice if Woodleigh would make ammo since they make a bullet for the 318. I can't seem to find where Hornady does anymore.

Would love to Ruger find some magnum length actions and make a run of Africans in 300 H&H.

01 February 2020, 02:06

If they would call it the 7x64 Rugerby Accellarated Super Express they would have been sold out by nowhttps://forums.accuratereloading.com/groupee_common/ver1.3.7.2147483647/platform_images/blank.gif

01 February 2020, 02:39

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ho:
If they would call it the 7x64 Rugerby Accellarated Super Express they would have been sold out by now.

01 February 2020, 04:28

jeffeosso

quote:
Originally posted by ho:
If they would call it the 7x64 Rugerby Accellarated Super Express they would have been sold out by nowhttps://forums.accuratereloading.com/groupee_common/ver1.3.7.2147483647/platform_images/blank.gif

aye -- i'd mortgage my motorcycle for that one

01 February 2020, 13:57

dSmith.45

quote:
Originally posted by surefire7:
quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
I think it is because Ruger had a shiny new .280 AI reamer with only 150 barrels chambered on it. A Ruger No 1 dealer had a 150 rifles made up with a 25" "A" weight barrel and some of the nicest wood on a Ruger since the late 1960's.

Just got another email from Jason Cloessner at Lipseys. He mentioned the special run they did for Classic Sporting Arms in the Ruger 25" No. 1-A in 280AI. He said they sold out very quickly, and that was basically a marketing 'test run' for the round. He said that those buying this rifle mentioned that they would like to have one also in a model 77, the African in particular.

He further stated that while they would like to do an older classic caliber such as a 318WR, or a more modern round such as a 338-06, the problem is three fold. One, if the round is not SAAMI or CIP approved, it's a non-starter for them. Two, proof loads are nearly impossible to source. Without them, they cannot manufacture such rifles for the market. And Three, it is then difficult to convince ammo companies to produce ammunition for such small runs.

He reiterated that the 35 Whelen and 30-06 are high on his list because of the easy availability of all of the above three concerns.

I would personally love to see Lipseys produce rifles in some of the old classic African calibers, but I see their point. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am pumped about the 35 Whelen and 30-06 some year.

Have a good weekend folks!

Agree with everything you wrote. I originally went looking for a M77 African in .275 Rigby but never could find one for reasonable money. I found instead the previous year No.1 in Rigby. I actually purchased that from CLassic Sporting Arms. Last year I added the Lipsey No.1-S in .35 Whelen. I love this pair as my non magnum North America pair. I could handle any big game with one of these two rifles.

One thing, I thought Weatherby put the .338-06 through the SAMMI process when they were chambering rifles in it.

You have a great weekend as well !

01 February 2020, 17:59

LHeym500

quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
quote:
Originally posted by surefire7:
quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
I think it is because Ruger had a shiny new .280 AI reamer with only 150 barrels chambered on it. A Ruger No 1 dealer had a 150 rifles made up with a 25" "A" weight barrel and some of the nicest wood on a Ruger since the late 1960's.

Just got another email from Jason Cloessner at Lipseys. He mentioned the special run they did for Classic Sporting Arms in the Ruger 25" No. 1-A in 280AI. He said they sold out very quickly, and that was basically a marketing 'test run' for the round. He said that those buying this rifle mentioned that they would like to have one also in a model 77, the African in particular.

He further stated that while they would like to do an older classic caliber such as a 318WR, or a more modern round such as a 338-06, the problem is three fold. One, if the round is not SAAMI or CIP approved, it's a non-starter for them. Two, proof loads are nearly impossible to source. Without them, they cannot manufacture such rifles for the market. And Three, it is then difficult to convince ammo companies to produce ammunition for such small runs.

He reiterated that the 35 Whelen and 30-06 are high on his list because of the easy availability of all of the above three concerns.

I would personally love to see Lipseys produce rifles in some of the old classic African calibers, but I see their point. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am pumped about the 35 Whelen and 30-06 some year.

Have a good weekend folks!

Agree with everything you wrote. I originally went looking for a M77 African in .275 Rigby but never could find one for reasonable money. I found instead the previous year No.1 in Rigby. I actually purchased that from CLassic Sporting Arms. Last year I added the Lipsey No.1-S in .35 Whelen. I love this pair as my non magnum North America pair. I could handle any big game with one of these two rifles.

One thing, I thought Weatherby put the .338-06 through the SAMMI process when they were chambering rifles in it.

You have a great weekend as well !

ASquare put a version of the 338/06 through SAMMI. Weatherby built rifles.

01 February 2020, 18:06

dSmith.45

Of course. A Square.

01 February 2020, 18:42

7kongoni

Woodleigh makes bullets for the 318WR and Bertram makes 318WR brass so......

01 February 2020, 21:57

surefire7

quote:
Originally posted by ho:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ho:
If they would call it the 7x64 Rugerby Accellarated Super Express they would have been sold out by now.

Now that's funny. But probably very true!

Sadly, that didn't work for Remington when they changed the 280 Rem. name to 7mm Express. But that was a different issue, with confusion on the public's part, with the then new 7mm Rem. Mag.

I do own a Rem. rifle barrel stamped 7mm Express, as well as one barrel stamped 7mm-06.

But I may pay a lot for a rifle stamped '7x64 Rugerby Accelerated Super Express'...

01 February 2020, 22:04

surefire7

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
quote:
Originally posted by surefire7:
quote:
Originally posted by dSmith.45:
I think it is because Ruger had a shiny new .280 AI reamer with only 150 barrels chambered on it. A Ruger No 1 dealer had a 150 rifles made up with a 25" "A" weight barrel and some of the nicest wood on a Ruger since the late 1960's.

Just got another email from Jason Cloessner at Lipseys. He mentioned the special run they did for Classic Sporting Arms in the Ruger 25" No. 1-A in 280AI. He said they sold out very quickly, and that was basically a marketing 'test run' for the round. He said that those buying this rifle mentioned that they would like to have one also in a model 77, the African in particular.

He further stated that while they would like to do an older classic caliber such as a 318WR, or a more modern round such as a 338-06, the problem is three fold. One, if the round is not SAAMI or CIP approved, it's a non-starter for them. Two, proof loads are nearly impossible to source. Without them, they cannot manufacture such rifles for the market. And Three, it is then difficult to convince ammo companies to produce ammunition for such small runs.

He reiterated that the 35 Whelen and 30-06 are high on his list because of the easy availability of all of the above three concerns.

I would personally love to see Lipseys produce rifles in some of the old classic African calibers, but I see their point. Not sure about the rest of you, but I am pumped about the 35 Whelen and 30-06 some year.

Have a good weekend folks!

Agree with everything you wrote. I originally went looking for a M77 African in .275 Rigby but never could find one for reasonable money. I found instead the previous year No.1 in Rigby. I actually purchased that from CLassic Sporting Arms. Last year I added the Lipsey No.1-S in .35 Whelen. I love this pair as my non magnum North America pair. I could handle any big game with one of these two rifles.

One thing, I thought Weatherby put the .338-06 through the SAMMI process when they were chambering rifles in it.

You have a great weekend as well !

ASquare put a version of the 338/06 through SAMMI. Weatherby built rifles.

So, we have SAAMI approval for the 338-06, and Nosler has (6) loads already in factory ammo. That leaves only proof loads?

Where do rifle manufacturers get these proof loads? Would Nosler have them when they started making their factory ammunition?

01 February 2020, 22:17

jeffeosso

there's no proof loads in SAAMI - that's CIP .. proof loads are WAY over power loads (some say 25%, though it's unclear of that's a heavier bullet with same powder, more powder, or just more pressure.. idk, idc)

saami is NOT a licensing body, unlike CIP, .. hell, A^2 is a member of saami body at founding

01 February 2020, 23:43

LHeym500

Not proof, but I have read second hand sources cite the max pressure ceiling for the 338/06 that Asquare had approved my SAMMI is 65k psi.

The 35 Whelen is 58k psi.

03 March 2020, 00:27

Redlander

How about one in 7.92x57? I splurged and got one of the Africans in 9.3x62. I haven’t shot it yet because it has been frigid this winter, but, I’ve ammo, reloading dies, primers, and bullets.

03 March 2020, 00:36

Atkinson

LIpskys latest is the Ruger no.1-A with a 24" barrel fwt..Its a 250-3000 so I found them on Lipskys catalog last week for $1900 plus..Had Reds Hdwe order me one, and it cost me $1500. to my door.. they had 49 left that day.Got it almost overnight and they had 20 left..A friend fell in love with it and ordered one two days later and they were sold out!! They sold in less than 5 days Im told..Some years ago the came out with a 250 in 1-A but it had a 22" barrel, those are all but impossible to find and the fetch plenty of money..the Lipskys specials have made my a lot of money..I'll keep this one I suspect if for no other reason than the 250-3000 is the caliber I hung my star on many years ago..

I love mine, its light and handy and the 24" barrel still is a short gun due to the action..
Matches up with my 338 Win Ruger no. 1-S..except it came out of the wash all shrunk up..