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Couldn't resist. It's the full stock verson with the 20" barrel. Been shot enough to smoothe it up. Feeds excellent. I've shot it when it was new, and it's accurate.

The stock was chopped but it came with a nice original replacement. I'm thinking about one of those LaPour safeties, and Black T finish. Can't decide whether I want to keep the sights, remove them, or upgrade them. I never use iron sights, but I like the looks.

Those Texas hogs are in trouble next year.

Yippiekyaye. Smiler

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I would not upgrade anything. With this caliber being an obscurity in US any upgrade to this rifle is money lost on resale, or trade in. Trade in offers tend to be insultingly low for slow moving guns.
Just put decent scope on it.
 
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thumb okay, now tell us how much.
 
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I think that you will like this rifle especially in Alaska. It is a perfect caliber for many of the game found there. I would keep the iron sights and get some QD rings, In fact I am going to pay to have iron sights put on my CZ 550 in 9.3X62 just to have them as a back up. Iron sights work just fine and almost never have any problems. Can't say that about scopes.
 
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I dunno about this obscurity idea. There is an article in the March 2008 Guns & Ammo on handloads for the 9.3x62. Hornady saw the market suitable to introduce a 286 gr 9.3mm bullet. And there sure is a lot of discussion on this forum about this obscure cartridge.

About fifteen years ago, when I was looking for some useful chambering for a Mauser I wanted to finish, I happened to be browsing through the Speer manual, and read again what they had to say about the 9.3x62. At the time I was looking for the most thump I could get from factory ammo in an unmodified Mauser action. Since the x62 was designed for the Mauser, it was a natural. By unmodified I mean that there is no major change in the feed rails, and the bolt face.

Anyway, the only info source I could find at the time was the speer manual, but I noticed that Pac Nor offered the chambering. So I had them put a barrel on my reciever, and ordered dies, and componants. It was a very satisfactory project, but it took several years to finish. Anyway, over time I kept reading more and more press about the cartridge, and now it seems pretty common, and getting more popular all the time.

Anyway, this is my second 9.3x62 - a short barreled version.

Having a 9.3x62 makes one wonder what all this hype over the 35 Whelen and 338-06 is all about. Wink

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Perhaps it's different where you live, but just try to unload metric number in my neck of the woods. Last month local shop had 7x64 CZ 550 with Artemis 2000 6x42 scope in factory mounts. It was like new with 10 or 12 boxes of Remi and S&B ammo. The price was staggering $569.
The fact that it appears in lit and this forum means next to nothing. Good ole' country boy from this country doesn't frequent here, or read published info regarding this caliber. There are some good articles in Precision Shooting and nice chapter in Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges entitled 'The Indomitable 9.3x62'. When RWS sent ammo over to US some years ago they sold SIX Boxes of cartridges in this caliber.
Let's face it when you have two factory rifles on the shelf one in .35 Whelen and second in 9,3x62 which one is going to move faster?
 
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I would not upgrade anything. With this caliber being an obscurity in US any upgrade to this rifle is money lost on resale, or trade in. Trade in offers tend to be insultingly low for slow moving guns.
Just put decent scope on it.


Sir the popularity of the 9.3s in the US is on the rise and are not nearly as obscure as you believe


There are no fleas on the 9.3s

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Paolo9,
I can relate to what you are saying, even though your posts don't show where you live, Texas or Argentina.

I suppose I don't worry too much about resale value, but perhaps I should because I seldom get my money back on stuff I buy.

I've got a 35 Whelen, and like it each year more and more. It feeds super slick. I like the 9.3 metric as well. I'm glad I don't have to say which is my favorite, and give the other one up.

Metric cartridges are OK with me, but perhaps I'm different. In fact, I wanted a rifle to shoot the 9.3x57mm, and didn't want an old relic, so I had one made on an FN action. That thing feeds so well that the cartridge practically jumps into the chamber. I haven't taken it hunting yet, but plan to use it for deer and hogs down south.

Anyway, I like using rifles in unusual calibers, and to me the 30-06 is boring. One of my favorites is the 8mm Mauser. Haven't found it boring yet. Also, I've got one wildcat, and another in the making. They are not boring either.

So, the good-ole-boys can have the normal boring stuff, and I'll keep trying the unusual, and worry about resale later.

Thanks for the discussion.

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I suppose I don't worry too much about resale value, but perhaps I should because I seldom get my money back on stuff I buy.


that is my kind of seller! thumb when you find something "boring" please give me a early hint, I like the .30-06 in fact I love it!

I am a good-ole boy an home grown Alaskan to boot!
 
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Question?
I have a CZ 550 FS on order in this caliber. What is the best scope and peep sight combo for this rifle?
 
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that is my kind of seller! thumb when you find something "boring" please give me a early hint, I like the .30-06 in fact I love it!

I am a good-ole boy an home grown Alaskan to boot!


Funny thing about those 30-06s. Can't seem to hang onto them. I've had a bunch of them over the years. They sit around, not getting much use, and eventually some good ole boy comes along and offers me what I think it's worth. Wink

Now, I have only one, and I'll just keep that one, just so I don't feel the need to go shopping for another. Every now and then, when I feel the urge to keep things real simple, I'll grab the 06, some factory ammo, and go hunting. It's reliable that way, but boring. Wink

Same thing happens with the 308, but not so often. Mostly, when I want to hunt with something smaller than a medium bore, I'll pick up the 308, rather than the 06, and mostly use factory ammo it it too. I just can't see any difference in performance between the 06 and the 308, for practical purposes, for the stuff I would hunt with either one, so I might as well use the shorter, and handier rifle.

However, around here my main go-to-keep-it-simple rifle is always the 338 WM, unless I'm hunting down south. We have big bears around here - real monsters, but usually well behaved. That 338 gives me the extra comfort level needed, and it really is a good deer rifle, close or way the f--k out there.

I carry the 9.3x62 and hunt with it just because I like it, not because I need it, however it will roll a brown bear over just fine. Those Lapua mega 285gr bullets will go all the way through both shoulders, and exit a brown bear, if they don't hit the big leg bones. Surely the bonded bullets will do even better.

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I have a CZ 550 FS on order in this caliber. What is the best scope and peep sight combo for this rifle?


Anything from Docter holosight to 1.5 or 2-?x56 depending on type of hunting you're going to pursue.
 
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The fact that it appears in lit and this forum means next to nothing. Good ole' country boy from this country doesn't frequent here, or read published info regarding this caliber.


There's a chance the good ole' country boy won't know what a 35 Whelen is, neither. Lou


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Paolo9,5x73,
I wear Bifocals and I was thinking of a VX-III 1.75-6x32mm or a Burris Signature Select Riflescope 1.75-5X32mm with a peep sight or a ghost ring sight back-up.
 
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I have a CZ 550 FS on order in this caliber. What is the best scope and peep sight combo for this rifle?


I was pondering the question about scopes too. I don't know much about peep sights, but I think something is available to fit the CZ from XS sights.

With this CZ receiver, it seems that a long scope will be best. On my Mausers, I use an extended front base to get the ring back so I can use a 2x7 Leupold, but it doesn't look like the 2x7 will work with the normal spacing of the rings on the CZ. I think the 1x4 Leupold is long enough, and the 1.5x5, and the 3.5x10, and surely the 3x9, so finding a scope to fit should not be a big problem. It just depends on the maginfication you want. I think I'm going to try a 1x4 Leupold first, since I already have a spare, but I would be happy with a Leupold 3x9 too.

I don't use a peep sight. If I used anything similar it would be the ghost ring rear sight, mounted right on the receiver, or a red dot sight.

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The fact that it appears in lit and this forum means next to nothing. Good ole' country boy from this country doesn't frequent here, or read published info regarding this caliber.


There's a chance the good ole' country boy won't know what a 35 Whelen is, neither. Lou

Look, you are too educated to understand us Heee Haaaw boys. You see, wee first go to ammo isle to take a picaboo at the cartridge before buying that rifle. Pretty smart eh? Obviously a rifle for which ammo is not available on the spot is next to worthless. Do you understand the concept of instant gratification? hillbilly
 
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Where I live, guns in 9.3x62 are nonexistent. The caliber was suggested to me by a internet friend, and I couldn't be happier. It has become my favorite all around caliber.

It has to be the easiest caliber ever to reload for. Every load that I have tried has gone in one hole at 100 yards.

Right now, I have a Swarovski A series 3-9x36mm on my 9.3, but I have a Leupold VXIII 1.5-5 illuminated reticle on the way specifically for it.

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I stayed with "mainstream" calibers for 25 years, but since I have broadened my horizons, I have discovered a whole new world of shooting.






 
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Paolo9,5x73,
I wear Bifocals and I was thinking of a VX-III 1.75-6x32mm or a Burris Signature Select Riflescope 1.75-5X32mm with a peep sight or a ghost ring sight back-up.


I'm thinking the 1.75-6 Leupold may not fit correctly, just as the 2x7 doesn't look like a good fit. I don't know about the Burris. My point is that you need a scope that has a long tube, front and back, to allow some room to adjust for eye relief. The one scope that I would bet would work is the 3x9 Leupold. Generally the 3x setting is low enough, and often you can use the higher magnification, at the range if for nothing else. I am certain there are many suitable scopes. I just don't know them all. but it looks like the short scopes will be a problem.

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I have a Zeiss 3X9X40 conquest on my CZ 550 American right now, but was looking at a more suitable scope. I was thinking a smaller power Zeiss. My old eyes don't see as well with the smaller 20mm 24mm scopes so thinking a 32 or 36mm. Althought the 3X9 seems to fit just fine and looks as if it fits the action. The CZ is a new rifle and I stole the Zeiss off of the Winchester 300 H&H. Need to get at least one for one these..
 
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I have a Zeiss 3X9X40 conquest on my CZ 550 American right now, but was looking at a more suitable scope. I was thinking a smaller power Zeiss. My old eyes don't see as well with the smaller 20mm 24mm scopes so thinking a 32 or 36mm. Althought the 3X9 seems to fit just fine and looks as if it fits the action. The CZ is a new rifle and I stole the Zeiss off of the Winchester 300 H&H. Need to get at least one for one these..

The 3-9x Conquest is pretty decent scope for that rifle. I wanted "panoramic" FOV and reticle in 1st plane for better shooting capability at dawn and dusk so I went with another glass.
 
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Paolo9,5x73, thanks for the note. I fully agree with you. I am from the country and know all too well the concept of instant gratification; it's a fundamental part of the male id. However, most of the country stores I have patronized don't stock 35 Whelen or similar cartridges, including Walmart. beer Also, just because I went to school for a long time doesn't mean I'm smart, ask some of my students. hillbilly Lou


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I have a CZ 550 FS on order in this caliber. What is the best scope and peep sight combo for this rifle?

I like low power fixed scopes like the Weaver K2.5 on my CZ 550 FS but a straight tube variable would work well too. The Leupold 1.5-5x20mm Vari-X III has been on my .35 Whelen for many years. I would have no problem with a Leupold VX-II 1-4x20mm as a current replacement. I had considered a peep for this rifle but decided a low power scope with the installed irons was the right mix for me. I bought the American model and scoped it with a Burris Safari 1.75-5 so decided The FS would be at its best with the installed iron sights. It has a certain feel and look just as it is. If you find the perfect peep sight, which in my mind would install in the rear scope scallop without stock modifications, I'd like to hear about it!
 
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I have a 9.3x62 CZ550 and I like it.
I was inquiring about a receiver sight for a CZ 550 a while back but I didn't come up with anything.
Last week NECG sent a post card displaying their Ghost Ring Peep Sight for the CZ 550 actions. I asked about it at 24hourcampfire but nobody has replied that they have used one.
Although I have not used it, I think it looks like a good sight.

pic of NECG Ghost Ring Peep Sight for the CZ 550 actions

CZ peep sight instructions

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I have a 9.3x62 CZ550 and I like it.
I was inquiring about a receiver sight for a CZ 550 a while back but I didn't come up with anything.
Last week NECG sent a post card displaying their Ghost Ring Peep Sight for the CZ 550 actions. I asked about it at 24hourcampfire but nobody has replied that they have used one.
Although I have not used it, I think it looks like a good sight.

pic of NECG Ghost Ring Peep Sight for the CZ 550 actions

CZ peep sight instructions

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Thanks for posting that Jim!





 
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Paolo9,5x73,
I wear Bifocals and I was thinking of a VX-III 1.75-6x32mm or a Burris Signature Select Riflescope 1.75-5X32mm with a peep sight or a ghost ring sight back-up.


I'm thinking the 1.75-6 Leupold may not fit correctly

KB


I have a Vari-X III 1.75x6E in Talley levers that fits nicely on my 9.3x62 CZ 550 lux.

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I too have a Vari X III 1.75 X 6 in Warne QD;s on a CZ 550FS in 9.3 X 62. It also fits quite nicely on my Ruger #1 in 9.3 X 74R. Go for it!!

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My 550 FS 9.3 has a Kahles 30mm 1.5-6 on it in CZ factory rings....
 
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I would not upgrade anything. With this caliber being an obscurity in US any upgrade to this rifle is money lost on resale, or trade in. Trade in offers tend to be insultingly low for slow moving guns.
Just put decent scope on it.


They are only worth about $400-600 anyway. A sci-fi finish will only increase value.

McMillan makes a nice synthetic stock for them if your interested in that route.
 
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Have two 9,3x62s. One is a 24" CZ 550 American. It wears a 2.5-8x Leupold. Good general purpose rifle thought the scope does not quite have the light gathering power I'd like at dusk and dawn.

The other is a 22" rifle built on a VZ.24. It wears a 1.8-5.5x Zeiss Conquest. Good general purpose rig.


For a FS rifle to be used as a carry rifle in the event of an accidental confrontation with a nasty beast, I'd go with something like a 1.5-6x32 or 42. Would leave it set at 1.5 while walking around.

The 9,3x62 in the nice small package like the FS rifle should be a great field or truck gun.


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I too have a Vari X III 1.75 X 6 in Warne QD;s on a CZ 550FS in 9.3 X 62. It also fits quite nicely on my Ruger #1 in 9.3 X 74R. Go for it!!

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I also have a Leupold 1.75-6 in Warne QD rings on my CZ 9.3x62. The scope is even the older short tube version and it still fits.

The NECG peep sight is the only one available that I know of. XS is apparently never going to happen. I called them a couple years ago and recently, and they seem stuck on dead center.

I have the NECG peep at the smith getting the center hole (way too small) drilled out, and the "ears" ground down. I think the NECG peep is way over-engineered and much more complicated a design than the XS back-up ghost design, but what are you going to do?

I also added NECG open sights. The Mediun height Univeral front works for the Masterpiece rear.

The 9.3x62 is an amazingly efficient cartridge. You get almost 375 H&H performance from that little, piss-ant case! Smiler


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I have a 1.5-6x Monarch gold on my CZ 9.3x62. I will sometime this year put a set of NECG sights on mine, but haven't yet. If there is a better caliber for all-round African plains game at moderate ranges, I haven't handled it yet.


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