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28 March 2002, 11:39
<Cyrax>
30-50 BMG
I'm very intrested in chambering a rifle in this wildcat but where can I find a barrel for this application?And yes I know you can get 30 caliber sabots for the 50 BMG but I've heard they are not as accurate.

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28 March 2002, 11:55
DanD
There are no barrels that with stand the beating from velocities of 5000+fps. It would only be about 100 shots thru the barrel before it was a smooth bore.
28 March 2002, 12:38
Robgunbuilder
As a long time competition 50 BMG shooter, I have to tell you that I would be extremely concerned with the possibility of such a cartridge grenading. No matter how slow the powder is, you are igniting over 200 grs of powder and trying to force it through a .30 caliber hole. If it burns you have a plasma torch and if it blows your dead! I'd just make a case for ha ha's and lay down till this bad idea goes away!-Rob

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29 March 2002, 02:16
<Cyrax>
You said there are no barrels that can take velocitys of 5000fps.+ but the military has many applications with high velocity cartridges and weapons with very high cyclic rates that burn barrels.What the hell type of metals are they using?

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29 March 2002, 06:24
Robgunbuilder
The military uses weopons designed with readily replaceable barrels.They know that full auto fire will errods a barrel rapidly. They replace them often. The military does not have weopons with velocities of 5000fps+. They test their weopons extensively to assure reliability and to weed out bad designs. They find it's also bad form to blow-up our soldiers.
29 March 2002, 06:25
Robgunbuilder
quote:
Originally posted by Robgunbuilder:
The military uses weopons designed with readily replaceable barrels.They know that full auto fire will errode a barrel rapidly. They replace them often. The military does not have weopons with velocities of 5000fps+. They test their weopons extensively to assure reliability and to weed out bad designs. They find it's also bad form to blow-up our soldiers.


29 March 2002, 08:20
CGB
Another way around this is to use .50/.308 sabots. I believe the military uses these for ap applications. I have seen references to these rounds launching .30 cal. tungsten bullets at 5-6000 fps. In fact I saw a couple of loaded rounds at a gun show a few weeks ago. Also saw a show on the Navy SEALs; the guy was using a McMillan and these rounds against an armored vehicle with fairly impressive results.
There is also a .338/.50 wildcat listed in the latest 'Cartridges of The World'.
C.G.B.
29 March 2002, 16:04
<Cyrax>
Rob,
Dipshit I did not say the military has weapons that fire projectiles at 5000fps+ I said high velocities.Like the 35mm anti-air craft guns.I was just curius to know if they used some type of steel alloy or barrel lining but thanks anyway.

30 March 2002, 06:51
Robgunbuilder
CYRAX/Dipshit- And here I just thought you were another moron consumed with rediculous notions about high velocities and weopons of no logical value. Based on your other posts. You might also get a few more contacts under your belt before insulting others. Do me a favor and don't reply to me any more. I'll do liklewise.-Rob
30 March 2002, 16:25
<Cyrax>
Robgunbuilderfag,Wow your a super member you must think your the fucking shit!I'm sorry I don't posess your mighty wisdom dickfuck!


30 March 2002, 17:23
<Guy>
Cyrax - I never get in pissing contests with morons but your attitude is not welcome here, so I will say this with my best marine voice "disappear scumbag!"
31 March 2002, 12:33
<Cyrax>
Yes sir sarge!!!!!By the way marines are worthless pussies!Go Navy!

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31 March 2002, 20:58
smallfry
What an awfull post Cyrax, perhaps you should live in a country you are more proud of.