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TSX or A-Frame in 35 Whelen - what weight?
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Figuring out best load for plains game - up to Eland.

I normally run TSX light for caliber, curious what you guys think?
 
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You can never go wrong with a Swift A-Frame,,


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I luv TSXs...the 225s will be great plus you can also use it for pigs in your home state


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I have a 35 Whelan Imp that shoots both the 225gr TTSX and the 225 gr accubonds very well. They work well on elk so I suspect they would work for you. The 250 gr may be a good choice also but the 225 gr bullets will add some range.
 
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Thanks - hoping for pass through and wondering if 225/250 is too heavy?
 
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I shoot both 200gr Nosler Accubonds and 225gr partitions in my 35 Whelen AI and get 1/2" to 3/4" groups. Shot a white tail deer this year with the 225gr Pt and was a Texas heart shot, bullet was a complete pass threw from stern to stem with very devastating results so any thing in the 200gr premium bullets like the accubond or a partition/ A-frame 225gr will get the job done with a lot left over.
 
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Thanks - hoping for pass through and wondering if 225/250 is too heavy?


The heavier bullets are going to penetrate deeper than lighter bullets. You will get more pass through shots with the 225 and 250 than you will with the 200gr.The 225 will give you the best combination of deep penetration and flat shooting.
 
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I have been using 225 grain Barnes "X" flat base in my Whelen for close to 20 years now and am beginning to work with 225 grain TSX as the old Flat Base are getting hard to find. I have been well satisfied with the performance I get.


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Great choices, either bullet will do a fine job on Eland. SAF would be my first choice, I personally have killed lots of large African plains game along with Eland with the 250 grain SAF in a 338 caliber, all were quick clean kills. With the greater velocity of the 225 and the greater SD of the 250 grain bullet I believe penetration would be about the same.


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I use 225's in my Whelen at about 2650fps. Great accuracy and superb performance. Heavier bullets may require a twist faster than 1-16.

Just a note here. Several years ago on a bison hunt in Kansas, a 250 grain Nosler Partition was used in front of a full house load of RL15. The shot was about 80 yards broadside. At the shot, you heard the fawap of the bullet when it hit the bison, and the zing as the pass thru skiped across the prairie. Not the bullets you mentioned, but a good example of performance from The Whelen.


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My last hunt in Zambia in 2015 I took along my 35 Whelen and it took Oribi, Leopard, Lechwe, Hartebeest, Bushbuck and Warthog.

I used 250 gr. NP and I was pleased with it.
 
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I used it some years back and recently with my Jack Haugh custom rifle...Used the Nolser bullets exclusively...It worked great, kills really well on big game of all kinds..I would use it on cape buffalo with a proper solid, but wouldn't be my first choice by a long shot..

Why did I sell my 45 Whelens? I simply preferred my .338 Win. that has become my all time favorite caliber for NA game. and Ive had great success with it in Africa where its becoming more and more popular. I now have two buffalo to its credit, but the 40 calibers are my choice for DG in Africa.


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I vote for the 250 grain bullets- it'll be plenty flat in a Whelen to 300 yards, and if you know your trajectory, you can push it a fair bit past that too (just ask the whitetail buck I cracked at 416 yards last fall).

If eland were on my ticket, I'd give the 280 gr A-Frame a look, but only if your rifle has a 1:12" twist. Otherwise, shoot the weight the Colonel was designed for!

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John,

Either bullet will work fine. Your most likely to get a pass through with the TSX. Another bullet that works very well in the Whelen is the 250 Speer Hot-Cor. At 2400-2500 fps it works very well. I've seen it used on moose and caribou with devastating results.

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