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Experts, I have the chance to buy a custom built on a Rem 700 action with a custom barrel and other upgrades. It is a 7x57 Ackley Improved. The current load and bullet shoots one hole 5 shot groups using 150 gr ELDX bullets. Accuracy is excellent. I have not owned a 7x57 but own several .280's and two .280 AI. Anyone love the 7x57 and what would you say about it? Thanks. | ||
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You could buy the rifle for the accuracy it brings or because it's "different" but if you're thinking of buying it for the greater velocity, approx 100fps at most, you're wasting money. Especially since you already have a 7x57 and a .280. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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 Since you don't own a 7x57, why not?  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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dogcat, That purchase will have nothing to do with efficiency, need, or performance. Just going to be the cool factor which is a fine reason. But your 280 AI will out perform your 7x57 AI Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I run 139's in mine. you gain about 10% more case capacity and about 10-K more pressure in a new rifle. once you start putting 55 grs of 4831 or rl-19 behind a 140gr bullet it is getting into the 3,000 fps territory if you have decent barrel length. after messing around with a bunch of loads I settled in on the Hornady 139gr interlock on top of 52grs of RL-19 for 2880 fps. I'm good with that it does the hob I ask of it and it is accurate. | |||
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Was the belle of the sllahette sp? Game at one time. Now it has been over/out shined by newer catridges . It will never equal your 280AI———— speedwise, despite ’some’ claims to the contrary ! A N D you like/want to live extra close (or over) the ledge/edge . Also, it is a hand loader requied cartride . | |||
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Ive used the 7x57 Ackley and liked it, but my all time favorite caliber is a std.7x57 Mauser with a long throat..It will duplicate the Ackley. I have used most all the bullets weights and for deer and antelope I like the 130 and 145 gr. Speers...For elk I like the 160 GS Customs, Nosler partition and Woodleighs and I am betting on the 150 gr. accubonds as the best all around one bullet for hunting the NA continent, but have not used them in 7x57 as yet but they work in the 06, 308 and 338 win..I still use the 175 gr. Nosler partition at 2700 FPS for elk, and its sure kills them as well as most anything else Ive used..A caliber that's always interested me is the 280 Ackley IMP and would employ the long throat, but Ive yet to build one as ever time I get the notion I come up with "why", I have the 7 Mauser.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Get what you want and make the best of it. That said the 7X57 is too long for short actions and does not fill a std. long action! The far easier to find ammo for and the more popular 30-06, 270 and 308 will do the same things. If your thinking of an cool one look for a Brno 21h in that caliber.  | |||
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Here is one!   [/IMG]  That's a Vari X 3-9x33 with a m70 three position safety on mine. | |||
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The Brno's are nice.  Love the 7x57. Only Ackley I own is a .280 AI. Really like that one. Shoots std .280 cartridges as accurately as it does the AI versions. If you like the rifle, then go for it.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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My wife and I each have one built on a VZ-24 military action. We shoot 150gr Swifts in them for plains game and deer here at home. What I like is that once you fore form the brass you almost never have to trim the brass. I am seeing about 150 FOS faster at the same pressures. I also own a Ruger #1 RSI in standard 7x57. I am a big bore shooter and this is my little gun, I have set a 400 M max distance that I will ethically shoot animals.So it is just an efficient round that is a joy to shoot. | |||
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1 hole 5 shot groups = buy. | |||
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Its a great gun in that caliber, and as good as the 280 Rem and in the real world as good as the 280 AI for all practical purposes..I have used the std. 7x57 along with the .270, 30-06 and others and can't tell the difference in them on game or range in the field.. As to the size of the round I like the long 30-06 action and use a long throated chamber and the bullets seat out to fit the action perfect and give me another 100 or so FPS..I like the long throat on most calibers as a matter of fact..Winchester and Rem. learned a hard less on that with the pre 64 Win and 721 Rem with the 257 Robts. Folks figured out they needed to exchange the magazines by using a 30-06 magazine box in both of them so they could seat bullets out and get a full portion of powder in the case.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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