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Check this out /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | ||
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I suppose you just get that screw set up put in it from the get go that somepeople now get doen to avoid this  | |||
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Vapo one thing about the internet is that you really only ever read about the lemons........tgere more newsworthy, I reckon there would be many rem 700's out there without broken handles. | |||
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Don't you just love manufacturing cost cutting methods?   Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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You would think so wouldn't you  | |||
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Well, I own a couple and have never had a problem. You can always get lemons and there must be soome reason why it is the most successful fifle ever. Edited for spelling.  | |||
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All I ever hear it happening to is that cheap model 710 they come out with. I know many people including myself who have used 700's for years and never had it happen. "Science only goes so far then God takes over." | |||
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Don't foreget the Ruger!! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I used to own almost exclusively Remingtons, but have since turned to Savage. I don't have to worry about anything breaking on a Savage and they are generally more accurate as well. The one exception is the 7600 model of which I now have two, superb rifle in every way.  | |||
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I just get tickled when folks start bashing Remingtons especially the 700. When you are producing the single most popular rifle on Earth in Mass quantities, what can you expect??? Sure there's going to be a faulty one here and there, that's a given but, they are still regarded as one of the best rifles ever produced and they will remain that way for years to come. There's a good reason why almost ever custom shop in the Country builds 700s. Because they are one of the best. By far the most accurate factory built rifles that I've shot or seen shot at any range has been primarily Remington 700s, alot of them bone stock. Our range Master says the most consistently accurate rifles than come through his range have been 700s. Call me lucky but, every one I've dealt w/ would shoot sub MOA. Have a Good One. Reloader | |||
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Exactly right. | |||
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Tell that to the Custom Builders around here and they'd laugh in your face  .The Remington Model 700 action is one of the BEST actions to build on and that's a fact. Notice I did not say THE BEST but, they are definitely one of them period. Have a Good One. Reloader | |||
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I like the design of the Remington action, just not the way Remington makes it. If I was going to build a custom rifle based on a Remington type action I would go with an Ed Brown action. | |||
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That sounds like a good one Cobra, how much are the Ed Browns running these days? Have a Good One, Reloader | |||
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Some years ago a buddy Pete and I were having one of our Sunday evening; a few shots down the range and a lot of Bull Dust from the lip sessions. We were fairly conservative in our aproach to shooting. Anyway, there we were, when a young chap turned up. He had a Remington 700 of some sort. It looked more like a target rifle with a long heavy stainless barrel on a synthetic stock in 243 Win. The scope was powerfull enough to see spacemen on the moon. He had, he said, come to test some hand loads. Pete and I looked at each other said fine go ahead, we stood back. The young fellows action jammed after the first shot. God only knows what he had loaded into that 243 case but the bolt was stuck, it would not budge. We all three had a little go at opening that gun, but no, it would not move. Not to be held up, the youngun walked up to a brick wall and bashed and bashed the handle against a corner, still the action did not open. The young man was a carpenter by trade, he walked off to his van got a hammer, and eventualy opend the action after a few stout clouts. How did that week Remington bolt stand up to so much abuse, I saw it happen, it did! I asked the youg fellow what it was he intended to do with so hot a load. He was off to do some Hind culling. I asked him if he knew what stalking was and where did he intend attaching the wheels to the stock? Not many shooters would have done what the carpenter did, I thought little more of what happened untill I found out that Remingtons have poorly fitted handles. One anecdotal incident is just that, but it sure was fun to see Petes' face when he later recalled, with dismay, what he had witnessed. | |||
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I'd have to agree with Cobra, I now shoot Savages. Yes, if you do a bunch of custom work to the current crop of Remmys, you'll have a pretty nice rifle. I prefer to shoot and not have to have custom work to have a reasonably accurate, decently reliable rifle. Remington has cheapened up the m700 to the point it is not for me. The fit and finish alone has really gone south, as with some of the other makers rifles. Savage seems to be hitting on all cylinders and making a fine rifle. Maybe Remington will put some of the quality back in what used to be one of the best rifles available. Bob | |||
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The complete rifle for just under three grand, not sure about the action by itself. | |||
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It is like because it takes less fixturing to chuck one in a lathe and true it up. Like I said, it is the cheapest to build upon. People say all kinds of bullshit, and some even believe it. | |||
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now if one skips from the "cheap to true" actions such as the rem700, straight to the custom actions,..then what does that say for the non-custom actions which cost more to true up  I have several of the "other" actions and all will shoot well. But box to box, the rem700 is still one of the best around IMHO,..YMMV My mod70 (completely trued) will shoot with the best of them. BUT, parts are less frequent, often higher priced, and the trueing labor was more. That being said,..I have yet to ever see a controlled round feed on the BR line,..not that that means it hasn't happened. A bolt handle is a simple fix, an extractor and a bolt handle sounds of overpressure to me,..but I have limited experience with that as well. Shoot what you like,..but bashing the rem700 is an excersize in futility, as it would be with the win or ruger or savage etc. Difficulty is inevitable Misery is optional | |||
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Isn't it funny, even though we can't hear the comments made, we know that some people are shouting at the page! | |||
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I would call a Savage an accurate rifle not sure where you get the fine rifle label. Hideous synthetic stock both in quality and design. A blind box or DM magazine system , lets talk feeding problems . Working on my ISIS strategy....FORE | |||
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While I never had a bolt handle come off on a 700, I did have several extraction problems which led me to quit using them altogether. The 700 can be accurate for sure, but I require more out of a rifle than accuracy alone. | |||
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I certainly agree w/ that statement. I have a few Savages in the safe and they will drive tacks as far as shooting is concerned but, they aren't really things of beauty especially, bone stock. I've managed to make the cheap syn. stocks look pretty good by sanding the entire stock down w/ 200 grit sand paper to remove all mold marks and give it a dull sheen. On the wood stocks, I stripped them and painted them w/ nice camo stencils followed by a matte clear coat. Reloader | |||
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I do not like Savages, Period. I had a bad experience with the barrel of a Savage. It wouldn't shoot a group for anything. I'll never buy another Savage. Piece of XXXX. | |||
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Vapodog, when are you going to address the exquisite way Ruger ensures their #1 won't hit a bull in the butt by attaching the forend with a screw that torques the barrel down? Oh, yeah, and add to that the fact you can't adjust a Ruger trigger... No, thanks, I will stay with my Remingtons. | |||
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Last time I checked if you want a 1 piece bolt assembly its either a Howa or a Ruger. Working on my ISIS strategy....FORE | |||
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Moot point... Many years ago, Warren Page proved that if the brass fits the chamber and the barrel is unrestricted, it is virtually impossible to blow up an action that has been properly made... And anybody can overpressure a rifle to the point that the bolt sticks... Remington shouldn't have to engineer to correct owner ignorance, indifference or inattention, and neither should any of the rest of them. And finally, if you are basing your choice of manufacturer on whether or not you can beat on a locked bolt to open it after you mistreat and overpressure the action, I think your reasoning is weak. Nothing personal, just my opinion. It all comes down to priorities, and we all differ. | |||
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You've never heard me endorse the Ruger and especially the #1.....as far as I'm concerned they are a POS!!!...pretty maybe but that's all.....they warranty that gun to shoot 1.5" groups at 50 yards!!! Even the varmint models with heavy barrels. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Hi Doubless, My comments made about the Rem 700 were, as I wrote, anecdotal. The telling of an anecdote is a story, one would be making a mistake if one confused this with reasoning. You appear to have made such a mistake. Further it was not stated that being able to bash a 700 bolt was a "reason" for buying a 700 rifle. The point of telling the tale was to shew that not all 700 bolts are week. nothing more was stated. I'm pink therefore I'm Spam. | |||
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Oldun, my comment was not made specifically toward you, it was a general comment, and I stand behind it. I have to believe that all of the firearms on the market have bolt handles designed to function flawlessly within the bounds of the pressure curve of the cartridge the rifle is chambered for. Anything beyond that, the owner should have to pay for repairs. And if I extruded brass back into the ejector port and welded an action closed, I would expect to have to pay for repairs. JMO... | |||
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And my apologies, Vapodog, for misunderstanding your post after the statement "Thank God for Weatherbys". I thought you were saying Thank God for the Rugers... And Weatherby is another firearm I will leave to you all, and will never own. What an UGLY action... The cocking piece is an absolute atrocity! | |||
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Cobra I paid 1000$ for the action in US. Now, some members say Ed Brown no longer sells actions, only complete rifles. I think it's pretty decent to get rifle built on custom action with Jewell trigger, McMillan stock, Shilen barrel for just under 3000$ PGW will be in the same range Cheers /JOHAN | ||
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Doubless, Behind a generality is not a place I should care to stand. There you go, to each his own.  Oldun cogito ergo sum. | |||
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Isn't it sad, after all these decades that Savage still makes the ugliest sporting stocks on the planet? If that isn't the perfect example of "corporate culture" I don't know what is. "Experience" is the only class you take where the exam comes before the lesson. | |||
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Remember the old song "....marry an ugly woman" A Savage will seldom let you down...kinda like my '49 Willis jeep...ugly bitch but she keeps going and going and wouldn't think of not doing what I tell her!!! The year of the .30-06!! 100 years of mostly flawless performance on demand.....Celebrate...buy a new one!! | |||
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