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CZ in 7.62 x39 Question?
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I am considering buying one and I would like your input on the rifle and how it does shooting the Wolf Brand Ammo.
 
Posts: 43 | Location: redwater, tes | Registered: 08 August 2004Reply With Quote
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I have one if these and love it. Have only run a few rounds of the wolf ammo through it because the ones I had on had were steel core. Accuracy was good about the same as the UMC ammo I have been shooting throug the CZ.
Their newer lead core finally hit the local sporting goods emporium but I have;t tried it. All the feedback I've gotten is that it is good stuff.

Now that my Lapua brass arrived I'll be hand loading but I wante dto expend the UMC ammo to have some small primer brass to compare to.

I think you'll like the combo.




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Posts: 4865 | Location: Lakewood, CO | Registered: 07 February 2002Reply With Quote
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I bought one of my 12 year old daughter. She loves it. Great rifle to carry and very convenient in a blind given it short overall length. It has good accuracy, shooting Wolf softs into an average of 1.5 to 2 inches at 100 yards. The trigger isn't great even after adjustment as it seems a bit loose and gritty. I killed 2 whitetails with it in one day. The first was a standing 110 yard heart shot the other was a running 75 yard shot. Both deer dropped very quickly and both bullets exited leaving nice wounds and good blood trails if I had needed them.

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Posts: 1144 | Location: Green Country Oklahoma | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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My CZ carbine likes the barnaul ammo a lot better than the Wolf, and the former comes in FMJ,HP, or soft point. The Barnaul ammo is about 100 fps faster and runs $199 per box of 25 at Midway. Accuracy is right at 1 MOA.

Best hunting handload is 30 grs of Reloader 7 with a 150 gr Hornady btsp at 2320 fps. This is right at 50,000 cup in the little CZ and is the SAAMI max pressure. Most of the factory ammo is held to 42000 CUP for use in the SKS and AK rifles. So in the CZ, this load is like a 30-30 with spitzers...had to beat and an honest 200 yard deer load.
 
Posts: 1111 | Location: Afton, VA | Registered: 31 May 2003Reply With Quote
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I was considering one of these for my wife but for 150.00 ran accross a Stevens 325B (same as savage 340) in 30-30. Bloody thing shoots inch groups and feeds empties from the magazine.

Hard to beat. The CZ is prettier and looks very good however.
 
Posts: 111 | Location: Whitehorse, Yukon | Registered: 13 June 2005Reply With Quote
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I have both the CZ 527 and the Ruger 77MKII stainless in 7.62x39...what GREAT guns. If you only feed your gun Wolf ammo however it is like having a Corvette and burning regular gas...you will never see the full potential of the gun. With Wolf ammo the CZ will shoot about 1.25-1.50 MOA. With Lapua Match .6 MOA. This is with a Leupold 6 power scope on board. I recently stopped using Wolf ammo and bought a case of the Cheetah brand ammo...shoots about .5 MOA better and the primers are not as hard. I have two Mini30s also and had just too many rounds that needed a double strike to go off...no such problem with the Cheetah.

Perry....the trigger on my gun is probably the best factory trigger that I've ever had. It took only a little adjustment to go from great to fantastic.

One last thing I discovered. If you like free floated barrels there is one minor thing that the factory failed to do. I freefloated the barrel and when I put the action back in and tightened everything back down the whole action would pivot on the rear action screw no matter how tight things were. Upon investigation it seems that the factory puts a pillar in the rear action screw hole in the stock but not the front...that would be fine but they bore both hole to the same diameter and use the same size screw...so when the barrel is freefloated the front screw is just floating in the front stock screw hole.

So I called the factory and the tech said, yep we only put the pillar in the rear hole... I told them that was fine but you needed to tell whoever is boring the front screw holes to use a smaller drill.... The problem was solved by buying the rear pillar, glueing it in the front screw hole and then cutting off the exra length with a Dremmel cutoff wheel. Made about a .5 MOA difference in accuracy and the gun doesn't loose zero if the stock swells from moisture.

Bob
 
Posts: 601 | Location: NH, USA | Registered: 06 November 2002Reply With Quote
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i had one and sold it. my old colt ar shot much better than the cz. wolf ammo i always found to be a bunch of crap. take a few rounds and break them down. i'll be you find big differences in powder charges, and the mike the bullets to see what kind of diameter differences you get. I did it with 223 and got up to 5 grains in powder and the bullets ranges from 223 to 219
 
Posts: 13465 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by cynrays:
I am considering buying one and I would like your input on the rifle and how it does shooting the Wolf Brand Ammo.


See below. Mine is extremely accurate, but I have not tried Wolf ammo in it. Just handloads and WW FMJ factory rounds that I fired to get some empty brass....... The small group is with 150-grain Sierra .308" PSP flatbase bullets, 2300 FPS at 10' from the muzzle.....



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Are the barrels .308 or .310/.311???
 
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Are the barrels .308 or .310/.311???


.311"




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That's a shame.
 
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That's a shame.


No it's not!
 
Posts: 1547 | Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | Registered: 18 June 2005Reply With Quote
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That's a shame.


No, it isn't! IF you will look at the 100-yard target I posted above, you will note that the tightest gtoup was fired with Sierra .308" bullets! .308" bullets work well in my CZ, my SKS, and also in my Argentine 7.65X53mm....... I've even seen SUB-MOA groups fired using .308" bullets from, of all things!! A SMLE Jungle Carbine!


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Posts: 4386 | Location: New Woodstock, Madison County, Central NY | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Ok..."to me" that's a shame.

The way my luck is, it would never shoot .308 bullets.

I wonder what the barrel tenon thread size and pitch is...? Hmm.
 
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Fireball..I wouldn't worry. I know several people with these guns and they all shoot great even with .308 reloads.

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Posts: 601 | Location: NH, USA | Registered: 06 November 2002Reply With Quote
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Have only run a few rounds of the wolf ammo through it because the ones I had on had were steel core. Accuracy was good about the same as the UMC ammo I have been shooting throug the CZ.
Their newer lead core finally hit the local sporting goods emporium but I have;t tried it. All the feedback I've gotten is that it is good stuff.


It was my understanding that all the Wolf is lead core with the difference being a "copper washed" steel jacket vs. a normal copper jacket.
 
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My CZ 527 misfired with both Wolf and Barnaul. A call to customer service got tme a free overpower firing pin spring by return mail. Problems went away.

I'm mostly a cast bullet shooter, anyway, and it's a fantastic cast bullet gun.


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Posts: 1570 | Location: Base of the Blue Ridge | Registered: 04 November 2002Reply With Quote
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The new stuff we got here must be specifically for the California market where any steel components in bullets is not allowed at most ranges due to the "fire hazard" they pose.

These new projectiles are not magnetic so I doubt they are copperwashed steel.




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