I got a chance to get a nice 5 browtine on each side 58" moose a few weeks ago. I took my 338-06 loaded with 210gr TTSX. They are leaving the muzzle at 2680. I figured that the bullet was going 2200FPS or so at the 256 yards I shot the moose at. The first one went through the moose. The sencond one hit a rib going in, went though the lungs and rib going out and stopped just under the skin on the far side. It weighted 209gr and opened up to .531 and destroyed everything in the middle.

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Lets see if this works

Screw the bullet let's see the moose!

Nice pictures but I still don't trust them, I'll stick to 225 grain A-Frames.

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Originally posted by cobra:
Nice pictures but I still don't trust them, I'll stick to 225 grain A-Frames.

I've trusted my life with Barnes Bullets for 20 yrs!!

at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

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at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

From the pictures I've seen---there are some good ones in an article in the 2012 Hodgdon manual---the TTSX need more velocity to open than the TSX. On the other hand, the petals don't seem to shear off over 3000 fps like on the TSX. The pics I saw still had all 4 petals at 3400 fps if I recall correctly.

For non-magnum cartridges I'm not sure this is a good thing. When I shoot up all the 168 TSXs I've got loaded for my .30-06, I've thought about moving to the TTSX, but I don't think I'd stick with the 168. Instead, I've thought I would try the 150s to get more speed.


LWD

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Originally posted by LWD:

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at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

the TTSX need more velocity to open than the TSX.


LWD

YUP isn't that weird?

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Originally posted by POP:
at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

Some people are never satisfied no matter how well something works.

That is weird ! I thought that this type of bullet ,TSX,likes higher velocity to perform better. Therefore they the added a point to extend the range for good expansion .That's not true ???

Below 2000 fps impact velocity they act like a fmj.

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Below 2000 fps impact velocity they act like a fmj.

This rifle is a 300 yard rifle. That way I stay 200 fps or so above 2000 fps. The other bullet went though the moose. I have shot moose with different calibers and bullets and this one has worked the best. They are BIG critters. Example, about ten years ago I shot a 50" bull with 200gr partitons out of a 300wm. When I hit it, the moose just kept walking like nothing happened. The second one hit it in the neck and he dropped. The bullet in the neck exploded and the one in the ribs lost alot of weight.

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YUP isn't that weird?

Only thing I can think of is that the petals are thicker since they start further down the bullet. The plastic tip is at the very front where the thinnest part of the petals would be. So the thicker metal is tougher and more resistant to peeling back?

LWD

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That is weird ! I thought that this type of bullet ,TSX,likes higher velocity to perform better. Therefore they the added a point to extend the range for good expansion .That's not true ???

TSXs, at least in the smaller calibers, seemed to have a 2200-3000 fps window. Faster and you'd lose petals; slower and they might not open much, if at all.

The newer gilding metal bullets like the GMX and ETip are seeming to require more velocity to open but keep the petals on at a higher velocity. The Hornady catalogue has pictures of .30 cal GMX intact with 3400 fps impact velocity.

LWD

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Originally posted by POP:
at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

Some people are never satisfied no matter how well something works.

One man's trash is another man's treasure!

Base on their advertised velocity window for expansion I would expect this all the way to 2000 fps.

Since impact velocity is going to be less than 2600 fps, why not just shoot a Hornady or Speer bullet and save your money. In my 35 Whelen I used to shoot plain old 250 grain Speers. They will zip right though and elk and open up nicely. In my .338 Ruger Compact Magnum, I just shoot plain old 225 grain Hornady bullets at 2600 fps. At these velocities, you just don't need tough guy bullets. Plain old cup and core bullets work better.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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Originally posted by POP:
at 2200 fps impact I would want way more expansion.

Some people are never satisfied no matter how well something works.

Isn't that the truth!
Looks like the bullet worked great. I take it that the moose fell over dead and had he a front on shotat 20' or a steep quartering shot at 30 yards the bullet would have penetrated plenty deep. And straight.