I was just visiting their site and noticed the Sako model is on sale for $699 and the Savage model for $399. If you're into fast medium bores that looks pretty decent.
http://www.lazzeroni.com/ct_savage.htm

No, I don't work for them, or own one.

Has anyone here ever shot one or handled one? I always thought it would be a good rifle to try out and at this price it may be worth the purchase.
Thanks
Frank

The problem is not the cost of the rifle it is the cost of brass and dies. AT least as far as the short round offered in the Savage, I think you can get equal performance with one of the regular short fat magnums, and spend a lot less on brass and dies. Sean

Amen to what LoneEagle says I've looked and looked at them-I do love the Savage rifle-but the cost of dies and brass scares this boy!

"GET TO THE HILL"

Dogz

Hi,
I believe the short mags from Lazzeroni are more powerful than the WSM or RSAUM. I am especially curious as to the recoil from the sako in 7.82, it should feel like an angry mule!

At the price of the ammo (and brass), even the Savage rifle version looks like a lopsided bargain to me.

If I wanted to go Lazzaroni, I'd go all the way and order one of his complete, full-house rifles.

AD

I checked today with a more knowledgable friend who thought the dies ran about $80. What brass is used?
Does anyone have one? or shot one to test the accurace and velocity.
I have a very accurate and very nice Model 54 in 30-338. Is it comparable?
Thanks for the info.
Frank

I have 2 Lazzeroni rifles and with proper care the brass will last for many reloadings. Both rifles are extremely accurate using full-power loads and premium bullets.

Check the "classified" section for my Lazzeroni 9.53 Hellcat (375-caliber) which is available for adoption.

I just bought an LZ16 in 7.82 Patriot from them. I figured even with die and case exspense at $332.01 + shipping I couldn't go wrong for an all stainless rife. I'm hoping to get 6-10 loads per case. Time will tell.

btw.......these guns are being offered at auction for $299.00 with no reserve.

Which auctions?

lofter......some tips to make your Lazzeroni brass last a long time....(1) don't over re-size them. Bumping the shoulder back 2/1000" is plenty....(2) don't try and make it into a 300 Weatherby by hot-rodding loads...(3) anneal the cases after shooting the 4th time. If you don't want to learn to anneal Arizona Ammunition will do it for you quickly and cheaply. I've had them resize, trim and anneal when I've been pressed for time and it is very inexpensive and the brass comes back looking like new in very nice MTM cases....they do a better job than I can do. Web-site is www.azammo.com

I have a test batch of cases that have been shot and reloaded more than 15 times and they are still going strong with no signs of giving out.

180's at 3150 fps, I think i will just buy a .300 Weatherby at Wal-Mart and shoot the cheap ammo.

3100fps??? Where did that figure come from? I have the exact same rifle (Sako TRGS 7.82 Warbird) except I bought one with the nickel finish. I get over 3600fps with just under max loads (180gr). It does snort a bit when you pull the trigger. It is very accurate shooting Northfork,Nosler or Groove pills. It does not like any of the Barnes. I have not tried the new Triple Shocks yet. I have killed two bull elk,three whitetails and one bull moose with it. I have yet to recover a round from any of the animals. $699.00 is a SMOKEIN price IMO. As stated before the brass will last just fine if taken care of and not loaded to the utmost max. I like mine VERY MUCH!! A set of dies and fourty or sixty rounds of brass should last quite awhile. Even if you got five reloads per brass, 200-300 rounds. That is being conservative on the reloads per round. To each his own. But I am going to call a couple of my buddies up after I am done with this post and I know at least two of them will order the Sako's. They have been VERY impressed with mine.

[ 12-05-2003, 01:17: Message edited by: Hoghead ]

Was the 3100 referring to the Patriot?
I have checked with everyone in my area and only one of the local dealers was willing to establish a dealership with the Lazzeroni group.
The Dies are selling for $115 and the Brass is $45/20 in the patriot.
I believe the ammo was $49 per box.
I am working on it as a purchase to get the stainless/synthetic with power from a factory vs. a wildcat. My 30-338 aalready matches that but any excuse for a new rifle is a good one.

Think about it for a second. If brass is $45 for 20 cases does it seem reasonable you could buy 20 rounds of loaded ammo for only $4.00 more.
Lazzeroni's web-site shows $99.00 per box for ammo with lubed premium bullets.

I've shot the Savage LZ 16 in the 7.82 Patriot for the past year. The factory Lazzeroni 180 grain Partitions will average 3100 fps but achieve that velocity since they are swaged undersized. I got 3050 with the same type of bullet at the same pressures using RL 22. For this hunting season I changed to the 168 gr Barnes Triple Shock at 3160 fps. It is very accurate (average .75") and the brass seems very stout. At that price, I might buy another one.

At that price, it's a great deal...I bought mine last year at the special price of $799. It was horribly inaccurate when I first got it, don't know whether the action screws were too tight/not tight enough, or what. But after looking at the recoil lug, (or lack thereof), I decided that bedding it would be the cheapest way to fix the accuracy pblm. Now it shoots Sub inch groups with Barnes XLC's and Nosler Ballistic Tips. I really like the XLC's, and the film lubricant does keep the bbl cooler. It accounted for my elk this year....very flat shooting, no hold over at the 350yd shots on the elk. Brass has been very good to me, all loads have been max, and no ruptures or anything to report. Brass is on it's 4th reload. Need to trim anc clean it all now that seasons over, and I need something to do.

Thanks for clearing up the price thing. My 9 looked like a four and I really didn't think much about it. I was more interested in seeing the above reports about the accuracy and power. The idea of using 180's at anything near 3000 is enticing.
I like the idea of the synthetic/stainless combo as I primary hunt in rain and snow and seem to always pick those kinds of days for shooting practice. I have been watching the Gunbroker sale and the price seems to be holding close to $350. I think I will order from the local shop though to have a link to the company.
Frank