Hi guys,

A friend of mine and I went to the range yesterday and did some shooting. He has a Rem. 700 laminated SS in 270 Winchester. He's pretty dissapointed in factory ammo and wants me to reload for him.

His rifle does seem to have a preference for 130gr bullets and of the ballistic tip variety. It shot the XP3's and accutips pretty well but I believe it can do better.

Honest to god he had about $300 in factory premium ammo and the best groups were 2 inches.

He's going to Bass Pro for components next weekend and I was wondering if you guys have any input. I was going to get him to try ballistic silvertips, accubonds, and interbonds in 130gr. and start with RL 22 for powder and using my Federal match primers. If that powder doesn't work, what would you suggest?

He's not concerned with trying different things since he's fed up with buying $44 a box ammo and not shooting all that great.

He only hunts deer with it so he's not convinced he needs TSX's or partitions or A-frames.

thanks guys,

I've had good luck (sub moa) with 140 gr. Accubonds over 59.5 gr. of RL-22, WW brass, Fed 215 GM-M primers.

If he wants to get rid of some of the factory ammo, pm me and I'd be interested.

Good luck!

friar

Rem brass, 55grs. of I4350, 130 gr. Horn SST's or 130 NBT's works for me.

Bob

58 grs. of rl-22 and a 130 core lokt. Also 58 grs. of H-4831 sc and a 130 of your choice.

For the 130 grain bullet, I prefer one of the following powders over Re22:

IMR or H4350
IMR or H4831
Re19

Since he's not set on any premium bullet, I'd opt for one of the 3 brands, Hornady, Speer, or Sierra in flat base or boat tail. They are cheaper and easy to load, and all 3 will kill any deer in NA.

I use Federal Gold Medal match 210 primers and typically Winchester brass, or Lapua 30.06 brass necked down.

If your friend wants to take a small step up, then the Scirocco, Accubond, and Interbond would be good choices, while the ballistic tip would fall between these and the others mentioned.

Well, try H-4350, 53 grs with Fed 210 primers in WW cases, under a 130 Nosler Accubond. This load also worked very well for years with 130 Hornady flat base spitzers. Chronographed at an average of 2950 out of a 22 in and 2875 out of a 20 in. barreled rifle.

(It's an internet fact that a 130gr 270 bullet started out under 3000fps will simply bounce off a deer...) Dispite this apparently severe handicap the load has produced 3-shot one hole groups several times and accounted for dozens of pronhorn and deer.

I have an old .270 Winchester that just loves Remington primers. Not magnums, just Remington 9 1\2's. Groups were less than half of all the other major brands. Flat base bullets are less finicky than boattails IMO. Good old cheap Hornady's, Reloder 22 and Remington caps generally work.

Good luck

I've loaded for a bunch of different 270s over the years and all of them like H-4831 and CCI-200 primers with 130 grain bullets. Bullets were usually Hornady interlocks. Usually top out at 60.0 grains, but one rifle worked well at 62.0 (over max in all books but it shot well and never flattened primers or had hard bolt lift). Velocities run from 3000 to 3150 and accuracy usually around 1" for 3 shot groups at 100 yards.

it may not be the loads. Have someone who knows lok at the rifle to determine if there is something else wrong. Could beas simple as loose screws, or bedding. tec.

beretta:
I'm in the "I don't think it's the load" group. That rifle should shoot better than that with factory ammo. I'd first be certain that the action screws are properly torqued and all screws for the scope are tight. Barring that, I'd be looking at the bedding. I don't own a Remington but have owned numerous other .270 Wins. That thing should shoot the 130's better. I'd bet on the bedding if it were me.
As to loads, I only use 150 gr. Partitions and my "GO TO" load is 57 gr. of Rldr-22. I get about 2930 FPS with that and easily get 3/4" with my worked over Pre-64 Mod. 70. I'd say your friends rifle should do at least as well with 130's and Rldr-22.
Again, look at proper torque, then at the bedding. Good luck. Bear in Fairbanks

i load for 3 different .270 win. they all like 54 .0 grs. IMR 4350, WLR primers. 130 sierra b.t. the tightest one will lock holes at 100 meters. all are out of the box rifels. IMR 4831 at 56.0 is also a good load, all with 130 sierra b.t.

I am gonna have to try the RE22 or the H4350 variety....but my CZ550 270 loves 130 grain Interbonds and 60 grains of H4831. I've not loaded any AB's up yet, but am headed to the range sometime soon.

However if ya'll are looking for inexpesnive stuff? Don't forget the Nosler Proshop. Seconds have ALWAYS worked great for me in other calibers.

thanks for the input guys,

all good things to look at. I'm sure we'll get it all sorted out.

I have tried both 4831 powders and both perform very well with 130gr Ballistic Tip.

56gr of H4831 with the 130gr NBT was great....58gr was way hot.Cratered the primer in cold weather.

A real surprise was 54gr IMR 4831,Federal case,Federal LR primer,and the 130gr Remington CoreLoct.Cases were once fired,FL sized, and bullets were crimped at cannelure so they would function in ANY .270 of any action type.They shot as well and maybe better with three different shooters.Rifle was a brand new Savage and was probably the best I`ve ever shot.

Have not tried RL22 but I`m sure it would perform spendidly.

Beretta96,

It sounds like your friends Rem. 700 SS is new, and he has shot but a few $44 boxes of premium ammo. If this is correct, his barrel may just need to broken in by firelapping more rounds thru it. SS barrels are of harder material and will take longer to lap. It may take 200 rds. or so for the barrel to settle down. Rem. makes some of the better barrels out of the box.

He may be hesitant to shoot the expensive factory ammo so handloading is the way to go. Other than that, he may want to try handlapping the bore.

Geoff

The .270 was born to shoot IMR-4831, but RL-19 and 4350 are also quite good..all mine have been restricted to old surplus 4831 as it gets me more velocity and less pressure...Jack O knew that a 100 years ago...

Your friend might consider glass bedding his rifle or checking the bedding.

b96,
geoff brings a very good point to light and is rite ,most people don't even have a good 1 piece cleaning rod,let alone a good bore-guide,new barrels do need brake in and they don't shoot their best even when they are new,scratches, machineing marks, dents, all catch bullet metal and fouling from powder residue...now multiply all this by over shooting ,with-out a good cleaning style and she''ll copper/foul and look like the inside of a copper water pipe..barrel brake in goes hand in hand with good groups.
at least your friend will have enough brass for reloading ,but i think the cart is before the horse.
regards

Good points about barrel break in and proper cleaning. It can make a huge difference. I had a .270 barrel from TC that would not shoot a group under 6 inches. I took it back to get my money back and the fellow I bought it from told me to clean it, and shoot a box, clean it and shoot another. I know this is a lousy break in procedure and not the one I follow now but it worked then. The barrel after 40 more rounds was shooting 1.5 inch groups. After load developement they shrank to .75 inches. I no longer have this gun but my current 270 load is a max charge of Reloader 19 and a Barnes 130 grain TSX. I get great accuracy and better velocity than any other powder I tried. DW