The .270 does recoil less, and the recoil formula's confirm that. What's weird is the .270 feels like it recoils less than a .308 too me, but it's supposed to recoil more.
Posts: 3097 | Location: Louisiana | Registered: 28 November 2001
Given identical rifles, the .270 pushing a 150gr at 3000fps will be essentially equal to a 30-06 pushing a 150 gr at 3000 fps.
I think the recoil savings really comes from the fact that with the .270 you can use the lighter 130gr big game bullets to good effect in many situations. The lighter bullet reducing the recoil a small degree.
I had a .270 built on a Mark X mauser action. 26" bbl. weighed about 9 pounds. She was a real sweetheart to shoot with 150grainers and IMR4831 pushing 3100fps.
Something feathery in the 6-7 lb range will recoil like a 30-06 in the 7-8 lb range.
There are quite a few variables you need to consider.
Here is a link to a recoil calculator. It will give you some idea how variations in bullet weight/powder qty/velocity/rifle weight can change recoil levels.
I don't shoot 130 in 270 or 150 in 30-06; however, a 150 in 270 @2850 in a 9# rifle has a recoil of 17.7#s and a 165 in a 30-06 @2750 in a 9# rifle has a recoil of 20.6#s according to my ballistic program. If you can tell the difference, let me know. Ku-dude
I've been shooting a 25-06, 270, 280, and 30-06 side by side the past few months and there is a difference but describing it would be difficult. The 30-06 isn't bad at all but I can enjoy much longer range sessions with the 25-06 and 270. I can already tell the difference in performance and confidence as a result of the longer range sessions. Hope this helps.
Posts: 1346 | Location: NE | Registered: 03 March 2002
I can't tell one bit of difference in the felt recoil between the two. I know the 30-06 kicks more from the numbers, but I can't tell the difference and I doubt 98% of the shooters out there could either if they didn't know which one they were shooting.
I have shot 25-06, 6.5x06, 30-06, 308, and at last 270. The 270 kicked the most but then again it was a savage with a rock solid rubber butt pad, I mean it was hard as rock. All the others were heavy guns with good 1 inch recoil pads. Once I replace that butt pad with a 1 inch pad I couldn't tell the difference. For the best recoil gun I wouldn't have to say my encore 6.5-06 with 140 grain bullets going down a 27 inch barrel. I think that gun tip the scales at about 9 pounds. Those 140s were going just over 3000 fps.
My 7 1/4# .280 w/ 160gr NP @ 2850fps kicks noticeably less than my son's 7 3/4# Ruger 06 w/ 165gr NP @ 2900fps. The weird thing is the Ruger has the red recoil pad & the .280 a steel butt plate? Maybe the Ruger pad needs changing?
Posts: 7752 | Location: kalif.,usa | Registered: 08 March 2001
Whereas all things being equal, the .270 may not deliver quite the same level of rearward lbs-ft as a '06, but I think the recoil is "snappier", probably due to the rocket or venturi effect of a smaller bore for the same size case. Now for the apples and oranges, my .270, a M70 Fwt, definitely kicks more than a collegues '06 A-Bolt, both shooting 150 grainers, although neither one is objectionable. Reason...stock design and weight. His A-Bolt weighs at least a pound more than my M70 and feels totally different.
Posts: 707 | Location: Nebraska | Registered: 23 December 2001
Greg, you are asking for an objective answer to a subjective question. Who cares what the books say, it a "personal perception" more than anything. But as bullet weight goes up in a 30/06, you will dang sure start to tell the difference!
Oddly enough, I'd rather shoot the 200+ gr bullets in an /06 than the 180 grs. There seems to be just the right combination of punch and quickness about the 180 gr that makes me say ouch where the heavier bullets don't do it. Don't ask me to explain it.
Personally my 270 feels like my 308 when shooting the same weight bullets.
Posts: 19677 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: 23 May 2002
I have shot most calibers up to and including the 375. The issue of recoil is very subjective so it is hard to assess. As has been stated, the book says the 30-06 will kick more and according to my recoil software program, it does produce about 3# more than a 270, all else being equal (same weight rifle, etc). As mentioned previously though, there are a lot of variables, such as stock design and therefore it is difficult to be anything but subjective.
Someone mentioned that the 270 seemed "snappier" and I agree with that. Either way, if you can handle a 30-06, you can manage a 270.