I got an itch a few weeks ago for a 7x57 Mauser in the collection. Lo and behold I started a web site search and found none of the factories are currently chambering this fine old round. I checked Remington, Ruger, CZ, Tikka, Sako, Browning, Magnum Research and Savage. None to be found. Custom makers will make one for a 3rd mortgage on Eastern Maine but I can't find one. I suppose a used one from Gunbroker or Auction Arms will have to do unless someone can suggest a place I didn't look that doesn't cost the annual gross net worth of a small country.
Ruger does make one in their #1 line, but I really want a bolt action.

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Originally posted by cz75tac:
I got an itch a few weeks ago for a 7x57 Mauser in the collection. Lo and behold I started a web site search and found none of the factories are currently chambering this fine old round. I checked Remington, Ruger, CZ, Tikka, Sako, Browning, Magnum Research and Savage. None to be found. Custom makers will make one for a 3rd mortgage on Eastern Maine but I can't find one. I suppose a used one from Gunbroker or Auction Arms will have to do unless someone can suggest a place I didn't look that doesn't cost the annual gross net worth of a small country.
Ruger does make one in their #1 line, but I really want a bolt action.

Here's three, NIB!! two 1A's and a ! RSI! I have a 1A in 7X57mm, and you just can't beat them! I recommend quick action, because I think Ruger has dropped this chambering!

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78377686

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78418670

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=77833586

(Just checked out the Ruger website-they are still making 7X57mm No. 1A's and No. 1RSI's, BUT their retail price is now over $1,000. So these are priced fairly.

This one is nice:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78288493

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Originally posted by fla3006:
This one is nice:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78288493

That clunker is way overpriced. Not in the greatest of shape! I see that people ain't just a-dyin' to bid on it......

I got lucky years ago and received a CZ 550 7X57 from my brother for a birthday gift. I put a 3X9 Leupold on it, then took it out to the range. Wow, what an accurate rifle. All the handloads I've put through it are either 1", a shade under or over. The best thing is, it puts all bullet weights within 2" of each other. Get one and you'll love it!

There has been a many elephants laid down with the 7X57

I think your only option for a new bolt action is a Blaser. Other than that you will have to go used.

I like my Ruger No. 1, but wish it had a faster twist. It was made in the lat 1980s and will not shoot anything worth a damn over about a 154 grainer. Really nice platform. Also shoot an Ovedio mauser in 7x57. Was my first rifle. It will clear things out with the 175 grainers.

I like to think that maybe someone at Tikka is paying attention and will chamber the T3 Lite SS in .257 Roberts and 7X57. I would add one of each to my collection. Some of the manufacturers may not offer these cartridges in the lineup until we buy all those short mags sittin on the dealers shelves!

Remington's Classic from 1981 was a 7x57. I have one a love it. It shoots under 1/2 moa, easy handling and looks pretty good. They are available occationally on the gun auction/sales websites. I paid 500.00 for mine LNIB.

Perry

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El Deguello:

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Originally posted by fla3006:
This one is nice:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78288493

That clunker is way overpriced. Not in the greatest of shape! I see that people ain't just a-dyin' to bid on it......

Then I suppose Rigbys, WRs, Jefferys, Purdeys, H&Hs, commercial Oberndorfs, etc. are too.

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check out the American Hunting Rifles website and look at the 550 Classic. The company uses CZ 550 actions, McMillan Stocks and I am not sure about the barrels. The list is $1,750. I do not know if that price is current. It is offered in 7x57mm. There was a fellow who posts on this site who, at one time, said he had a CZ 550 Full Stock in 7x57mm that he wanted to sell. I tried to contact him the other day via e-mail to see if he still had it for another fellow on another forum, but he has not responded. Am guessing he sold it, or he just won't respond period. Anyway, even the Rugers are going for premium price these days. Mine is in CZ 550 American. That thing just plain rocks. Handloads with the 160 grain class bullets and a full+ load of H414 turns out three-shot groups of less than a half inch at 100 yards. I have used the caliber for elk, whitetail deer, muledeer, antelope, bear, coyote, wild hogs, javelina and even wild turkey. CZ used to make the 550s in the caliber and then stopped importing them to the United States in that caliber. I noticed the euro-catalog does not list the 7x57mm any more either. I don't know if all the people who say they would get one if there were any available are just BSing or not, but it sure seems there is interest in the caliber out there and the lack of interest by the manufacturers is beyond me. I'm just damn glad I've got mine. Tom Purdom

I have two Rugers and one Winchester Featherweights in 7 x 57.. I got each for a good price because no one wanted them...

The Winchester is a real tack driver...with about anything you feed it.. the Rugers can be, but they are much more picky....

Any normal person would build one on a Mauser action. Order a barrel from Adams&Bennet(Midway), get an action from a current surplus mauser like the 24/47 which have milled bottom metal and find the stock you like, possibly a Boyds JRS laminated, have a good gunsmith bend the bolt and drill and tap for a scope. I suggest the F14 barrel contour.

I got really lucky several weeks ago and found a Model 70 featherweight xtr NIB for half the prices I've seen posted here. $550.00.

gunsamerica.com has several 7x57s listed right now. There are three rugers, one of which is going in the $500 range and the other two for about $700. It is a shame there are no more commercial manufacturers producing the fine little 7x57mm any more. CZ discontinued its 7x57mm in the United States, but continued producing them for the Euro-market for a couple of years. I noticed last month that the Euro catalog now no longer lists the 7x57mm. It is an exceptionally fine big game cartridge with a long and colorful history. Anyway ... good luck in your shopping venture. Tom Purdom

I have a pretty nice sporterized Brazilian 1908 Mauser that I have $300 in and would like to get that, plus the actually shipping, out of it. It has a 4x Simmons Whitetail in Weaver mounts on it. I have only shot 1 box of Federal 175 grain factory loads out of it and it would shoot 2 MOA without any tuning at 100 yards.

I bought it for the son of a friend in Grantham, NH, but he decided, after I'd bought the rifle, that he wanted a 308 Ruger 77 RSI. Since his hunting partner's dad works for Ruger and could get him 1 for the employee cost, that is what he got. If you're interested in the Mauser, please shoot me an email at remguy260@msn.com and we can dialog off-line.

Jeff

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Originally posted by rickt300:
Any normal person would build one on a Mauser action. Order a barrel from Adams&Bennet(Midway), get an action from a current surplus mauser like the 24/47 which have milled bottom metal and find the stock you like, possibly a Boyds JRS laminated, have a good gunsmith bend the bolt and drill and tap for a scope. I suggest the F14 barrel contour.

all the f-14 contours I find are small thread barrels.....where does one get a blank only for f-14 contour?

They don't make factory 7x57's becuase they don't sell. One time a lot of people were lamenting the passing of a 7x57 on this board and I asked how many of the people bitching actually owned a 7x57. Soemthing like 3 people other than myself did. All of the others were just feeling sentimental and wanted to bitch. Had they been buying rifles as opposed to complaining, then the arms companies would have had incentive to keep making them.

I have read several times that more custom 7x57's are sold in this country than factory rifles in this country. But gun writers usually have no idea what they are talking about. They always write how popular the 7x57 is overseas. Total BS (just like 95% of everything else in magazines). I have hunted with a 7x57 in more countries than most folks eve visit in their life, and it is extremely rare to fins someone who has ever heard of one, much less know where to get ammo. I have traveled without a rifle to many more countries and always talk to sporting people and go into gunshops everywhere I go. The 7x57 has provem to be far more popular here than anywhere else I have gone. And even here, if you walk into a gunstore you have never visied before and ask about 7x57's, most of them will have never heard of them. If you don't believe me, fly somewhere and then start hunting ammo that is desperately neeeded to hunt the next day. It is very frustrating, believe me.

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Originally posted by 390ish:
I like my Ruger No. 1, but wish it had a faster twist. It was made in the lat 1980s and will not shoot anything worth a damn over about a 154 grainer. Really nice platform. Also shoot an Ovedio mauser in 7x57. Was my first rifle. It will clear things out with the 175 grainers.

That's interesting! My Ruger 1A was made in 1976 (A "Liberty" model), and it has a 1/9" or 1/9.5" twist, along with a lo-o-o-o-ng throat, and it even shoots those long ol' Sierra 175-grain PSPBT's very well.

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Then I suppose Rigbys, WRs, Jefferys, Purdeys, H&Hs, commercial Oberndorfs, etc. are too.

Some ARE, dear boy! Some are!! (I see no-one has bid on that clunker yet! What's holding YOU back, eh??)

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Originally posted by ALF:
Geez if I lived on your side of the border I would take that 275 in a heartbeat ! It's pure English finnished Mauser, complete with BU proofs et al...... maybe some here have no clue as to what a English 275 ( 7x57) should look like ?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, mon ami!

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I noticed the euro-catalog does not list the 7x57mm any more either. I don't know if all the people who say they would get one if there were any available are just BSing or not, but it sure seems there is interest in the caliber out there and the lack of interest by the manufacturers is beyond me. I'm just damn glad I've got mine. Tom Purdom

Tom, I've heard that recently in Europe, the 7X64mm has begun to replace the 7X57mm in popularity. I still like the smaller round, though.

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I've heard that recently in Europe, the 7X64mm has begun to replace the 7X57mm in popularity.

Magnumitis strikes again...

The 7 x 57 and 6.5 x 55 are two of the most logical rounds that military people have developed, at the time they were developed...

The less people know about, or ever even heard of.. the 7 x57 or the 6.5 x 55... the smart I feel!!!

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Originally posted by seafire/B17G:

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I've heard that recently in Europe, the 7X64mm has begun to replace the 7X57mm in popularity.

Magnumitis strikes again...

The 7 x 57 and 6.5 x 55 are two of the most logical rounds that military people have developed, at the time they were developed...

The less people know about, or ever even heard of.. the 7 x57 or the 6.5 x 55... the smart I feel!!!

All y'all boys want a nice 7X57mm??? http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8170427

Y'all cain't beat this one! I have one just like it, (helluva shooter!!) and would buy this one too, if'n I had any gun-buyin' money left! (Turkey probably wants a thoudand bucks for it!!)

Here's a Liberty Model 77...

http://www.gunsamerica.com/976747732/Guns/Rifles/Ruger-...t_200th_Year_quo.htm

I know of a large ring mexican mauser , a guy could get for I think 250.00.It would probably need some work to properly mount a scope.
It has a scope now but the one piece base has a shim under the rear , and I would want somthing better.
I nearly bought it thinking that if It did,nt shoot I would but an adams and bennet barrel for about 100 bucks pre threaded and chamberd. Should be plent good after that and a prety cool rifle...tj3006

Jeeze Marc: I was not aware the 7x57mm was so darned unpopular and out of demand. Someone should have told the boys building the Scholarship Rifle featured in the Gunsmithing part of this forum. It is in 7x57mm. I do not share your observations at all, but then I do not expect you to share mine either. I still lament the commercial gunmakers shying away from the cartridge. Thanks anyway for your post. Tom Purdom

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ALF:.... maybe some here have no clue as to what a English 275 ( 7x57) should look like ?

That certain someone certainly has no class anyway.

The rise and fall of cartridges has seldom to do with their effectiveness or killing ability. Fundamentally killing boils down to simple mechanics and shot placement. Many cartridges have faded away over the last 20 or so years, even very well designed ones. Admittedly some came out in the wrong configuration/package or twist rates. Most 8 mm's are also fading away. The .300 calibers will perhaps still dominate the market in 100 years time.

With respect to the 7x57, my view is that its popularity is waning simply because it is not promoted anymore by gun writers. These gun writers have to continually write about new things instead of repeating themselves or write about old stories that are no longer newsworthy. They also get paid in some way by the manufacturers that create new calibers (product diversification). In addition, Weatherby started the velocity craze, followed by rival companies so as to keep pace and not lose market share. Dakota created their own line of faster cartridges, so did Lazzeroni, Remington and to a lesser extent Winchester. Bullet performance in the main should actually be the focus point and not the creation and propliferation of cartridges.

The tide is also turning fast for Remington's Ultra Magnums, and who knows the fate of Winchester's different Short Magnums? The 7x57 is not necessarily better than other cartridges, but it is a very sensible one for medium game.

Warrior

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Originally posted by 7x57mm:
Jeeze Marc: I was not aware the 7x57mm was so darned unpopular and out of demand. Someone should have told the boys building the Scholarship Rifle featured in the Gunsmithing part of this forum. It is in 7x57mm. I do not share your observations at all, but then I do not expect you to share mine either. I still lament the commercial gunmakers shying away from the cartridge. Thanks anyway for your post. Tom Purdom

Funny how the 7X57 has really never been particularly popular with the boys who buy their rifles at Wally World and similar places, BUT has been a steady item for those who build the custom rifles to their clients' specs........

Yes, I realize there are those who think the British classic style is the be-all and end-all of gundom! De gustibus non disputantum est! BUT, I am NOT one of these. I do prefer English scroll to the more Baroque Germanic decoration which included boars with ruby eyes! But I like their guns! Give me a nice mannlcher-Schoenauer any day. Overall, however, I tend to favor American classic weapons, and am definitely NOT into Roy Weatherby's idea of what a gun should look like.

Hopefully this is not a highjack,if it is I will start a new thread.

How about some pictures of various 7x57 mauser/.275Rigby rifles? I really like the British styled 7x57s.

My wife is getting a .275Rigby itch .

So, pictures anyone?

Allen

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Originally posted by AllenBosely:
Hopefully this is not a highjack,if it is I will start a new thread.

How about some pictures of various 7x57 mauser/.275Rigby rifles? I really like the British styled 7x57s.

My wife is getting a .275Rigby itch .

So, pictures anyone?

Allen

Allen. did you look at the Henry Atkin 275 on Gun Broker??

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78288493 I know the Brits like those short forends, but to me they make a rifle look like a club! Especially when a short, fat forend is accompanied by a long, skinny barrel. This gun is by a well-known maker but I'd like to know exactly when it was made..before WWI??

"Any normal person"

That's what I'm gonna do on a 24/47. Replace the 8mm with a 7mm barrel Military 19" (RSI) . I have an old GAG Schutzen stock from an unfinished project. FN shroud, Bold trigger w/safety, extended FP release. not sure about the mounts or irons yet.

Rich

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Originally posted by rickt300:
Any normal person would build one on a Mauser action. Order a barrel from Adams&Bennet(Midway), get an action from a current surplus mauser like the 24/47 which have milled bottom metal and find the stock you like, possibly a Boyds JRS laminated, have a good gunsmith bend the bolt and drill and tap for a scope. I suggest the F14 barrel contour.

I used a Ramline synthetic made for a small ring mauser (M96). What a pain it is to reshape the hard plastic to fit the large ring 24/47. I wanted a 7x57 though the 8x57 barrel was still in good shape and used a F34 barrel contour which is way too heavy and long so I shortened to 19 inches. I used a Bold trigger (good choice) and a Dayton Traister safety. Should have used a Bueler or Timney's copy therof. The Dayton works well enough though. I used Weaver bases and rings to hold a 4X Redfield of Denver descent (early model) and it has never shifted POI. And it has had PLENTY of reason. I painted the barreld action with a flat gray paint designed for galvanized fence posts and striped the Ramline plastic stock with it too. I bedded the action with epoxie and used black automotive silicone at the forearm tip. This rifle is my ugly weather rifle and I named her ugly. However this rifle is a solid MOA shooter and using Speer or Sierra 160 grain bullets it has handily knocked over everything shot with it.

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El Deguello: Allen. did you look at the Henry Atkin 275 on Gun Broker??

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78288493 I know the Brits like those short forends, but to me they make a rifle look like a club! Especially when a short, fat forend is accompanied by a long, skinny barrel. This gun is by a well-known maker but I'd like to know exactly when it was made..before WWI??

Make up your mind! I thought this was a vastly overpriced "clunker" in poor condition?

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Here's another Henry Atkin, not a Mauser, for those who do not comprehend the significance or value of the name (with Briley chokes no less!):
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=78795142

Warrior: your reply was excellent and I tend to agree with you. From something a wise old sage from anouther forum told me once, the 7x57mm is a cartridge which seems to gain in popularity, then dies off, gets a short rebirth, then dies off again and so on and so on. I think it is too fine of a cartridge to stay down forever. Hope you are having a nice day, but only if you want to have one. Tom Purdom

Who will put a pict of my 275 on for me.