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What would be the recommended bullet choice for moose and elk between the Privi Partisan 286 gr or the Hornady 286 gr?


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Posts: 408 | Location: Sechelt, B.C., Canada | Registered: 11 December 2001Reply With Quote
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They are both low cost options in scandinavia lapua mega, Norma oryx and Norma vulkan is the popular choises for moose, vildboar,bear and reddeer.
 
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"flick a coin" but I would prefer 250grn bullets for those longer shots.
 
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What about the light weight Naturalis, Adam?
 
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I know this doesn't answer your original question but if possible try 250 grain bullets. I load Accubond 250s in my gun and really find them to add versatility to the 9.3. They would be perfect for elk and moose.
Someone mentioned the 270 grain Naturalis Lapua load. I have not chronographed them but the recoil is so much less than the 285 Megas I have to believe they are mild loads.
 
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What about the light weight Naturalis, Adam?


Not sure as I haven't had the pleasure to use them on Game.
 
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I second the 250gr Accubond. Moose and elk don't need anything bigger. I have had great results with them in my 9.3X64 and have yet to recover one.

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Another vote for the the 250 gr Accubond. I've used it in my 9.3x64 as well as the 9.3x62. They usually penetrate right through elk. If you are looking for an in-expensive bullet to shoot in your 9.3x62 give the 270 gr Speer bullet a try. You will be pleasantly surprized.
 
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I'm not a big fan of the prvi for inconsistency, so I would choose the hornady.

The 250's suggested are good choices. I avoid really long shots with the 9.3 and use 286 grain Barnes almost exclusively.
 
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You cannot go wrong with the 250 gr TSX or Accubond. If you want to go heavier I would suggest the Woodleigh, Lapua Mega or the TSX 286 gr.

Check the CEB site for their Safari Raptor with the Talon tip - I think the 210 gr bullet will give correct OAL for standard magazine. One day I'd like to try these.

I found the 255 gr raptor is too long to take the Talon tip and fit in the magazine.


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I recently used the 250 Accubonds in the 9.3x62 to cleanly take grizzly and caribou. Both one shot kills at ranges to 267 yards.

Perfect performance and DRT. No tracking needed.

Good thing on a big boar griz 150 miles north of the arctic circle! Big Grin

Would also work GREAT on elk and moose.


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What would be the recommended bullet choice for moose and elk between the Privi Partisan 286 gr or the Hornady 286 gr?


There's not a lot of info there: an awful lot depends on a)Range limitations; b)MV; c)Where the bullet impacts, and d)Impact velocity.

The Privi has a good reputation where range is medium, say 200 yards, but it has a poor B.C.

I've used both the 286 Hornady and 286 Nosler Partition on bear. For all-around use under all conditions, I'd use the 286 Nosler Partition, or perhaps the 250 AccuBond. The TSX's are way too long to expect the best performance in MV. They take up too much of the space that should be reserved for powder.

And the A-Frames are also limited in range due to relatively poor B.C.s as compared to the Noslers. I'd go with the Noslers as all-around performers. If I knew in advance that range would be limited to 250 - 300 yds for moose, I'd choose the 320 Woodleigh PP at 2350 to 2400 fps.
It has an excellent B.C. of .457.

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I am not sure where the below quoted info / opinion / comment fits in!

There is no way I could get 2350 to 2400 fps with Woodleigh 320gr bullets in my Simson 24" barrel 9.3X62. I got around 2230 fps or so with Varget (AR2208).

There is no way I would try & use that load at 250 yards. Maximum range for me would be 150 yards.

The 250gr TSX is a good bullet in this caliber - 2550 fps with Varget is achievable. Very accurate too.



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If I knew in advance that range would be limited to 250 - 300 yds for moose, I'd choose the 320 Woodleigh PP at 2350 to 2400 fps.


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Of those two bullets I would pick the Hornady.

I would prefer to use the 286gr Nosler Partition.
I have killed a lot of game with it, including some big black bears and some big African Plains game.

If I was hunting in thick brush I would use the 286gr Woodleigh RN Soft. I have killed a lot of African game with it including a Cape Buffalo, my biggest ever with one shot.

All of the above was with a 9,3x74R double rifle with a muzzle velocity of around 2220fps.

My farthest shots were on a Kudu at a little over 300 yards, with a scope on the double of course.

I have used several different bullets on deer and pigs, and the 286 Partition and the Woodleigh Soft work on small game and big game, close up and fairly far away.


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M-98,

I've never hunted a Moose but I've shot alot of Red Deer which are a tad smaller than an Elk with the 9.3x62.

Privi 9.3x62 286 gr. factory ammunition has an outstanding reputation here based on economy, good accuracy and terminal perfomance; for those who select those ammunition attributes. Sadly, Privi does not make their Grom (translate=Thunder) bullet in this caliber; it is indeed a very good bullet.

A couple of seasons ago I loaded the 286 gr. Hornady's in 9.3x62 for the drive hunt season; accuracy was superb and they performed flawlessly on wild boar & red deer (calves, hinds, lesser & mature stags). I also liked the cannelure on their bullet for use with a Lee Factory Crimp Die. Net, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.

For my purposes (driven & stand hunting) the best performing bullet I've experienced in this cartridge was the 250 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip (discontinued SKU) since replaced by the Accubond which is probably just simply more of a Good (Nosler) Thing.

Good Luck with your choice.


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I'm using 286grn Woodleigh protected points in my 202 sauer and with a dial up scope just drop a sambar stag at 405 metres so the heavier bullets can still knock big animals down at a distance
 
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I second the 250gr Accubond. Moose and elk don't need anything bigger. I have had great results with them in my 9.3X64 and have yet to recover one.

Jeremy


I was wondering how they hold up in the 64 . They have about the highest bc of any 9.3 bullet I've found. I've been shooting the 250 gr X and TSX in mine. They are good for bear and really all game but have too low a bc for long range shooting.
What speed/ load are you getting with the 250 AB?? Thanks.


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Sorry everyone but let me attempt to get back to the Original Posters question.
If given the two choices mentioned I would use the PRVI. I've shot several hundred of the PRVI's in my 9.3x62 at velocities around 2400 fps and found them very accurate and consistent. I have a sand bank backstop at my range and the PRVI's seem to mushroom beautifully where other bullets (Hornady) fragment.
I know this is not definitive testing but of the choices given I would hunt with the PRVI's.
 
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Thank you all who responded to my original question.

A bit of background. I had a ZG-47 at the gunsmiths this past summer to be rebarreled to9.3X62. As time passed, I honestly didn't thing the barreled action would be back to me in time for me take it hunting on Sept 15. I received it on Sept 5 and due to poor planning on my part, I hadn't procured any premium bullets.
I loaded up two batches of ammo using the PP and the Hornady bullets. It was no contest. The Hornadys shot consistantly into an inch while the PP's were 3-4 inches.

When I get home, I'm going to get serious about developing a load using the Prvis.


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Thank you all who responded to my original question.

A bit of background. I had a ZG-47 at the gunsmiths this past summer to be rebarreled to9.3X62. As time passed, I honestly didn't thing the barreled action would be back to me in time for me take it hunting on Sept 15. I received it on Sept 5 and due to poor planning on my part, I hadn't procured any premium bullets.
I loaded up two batches of ammo using the PP and the Hornady bullets. It was no contest. The Hornadys shot consistantly into an inch while the PP's were 3-4 inches.

When I get home, I'm going to get serious about developing a load using the Prvis.


Just goes to show that every gun is an individual. Thus far, all of my various 9,3's have shot the PP into at least MOA groups.




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Ive shot a half dozen good sized animals with the privi and performance has been stellar,
For my last bear I ran the 286 nosler partition under a stiff load of RL 17 and drove it lengthwise on a texas heart shot to find it under the skin of the busted shoulder at the other end looking like a magazine add subject. ( six foot black bear)
I sold my hornady stash prefering the partition for the open spots with it .405 bc and the privi for the not so open stuff.
 
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if the choice is only those two ones i ll take Hornady but im using them only at the range for pratice and hunt with Partition or Oryx.
 
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I am not sure where the below quoted info / opinion / comment fits in!

There is no way I could get 2350 to 2400 fps with Woodleigh 320gr bullets in my Simson 24" barrel 9.3X62. I got around 2230 fps or so with Varget (AR2208).

There is no way I would try & use that load at 250 yards. Maximum range for me would be 150 yards.

The 250gr TSX is a good bullet in this caliber - 2550 fps with Varget is achievable. Very accurate too.



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If I knew in advance that range would be limited to 250 - 300 yds for moose, I'd choose the 320 Woodleigh PP at 2350 to 2400 fps.


2350 to 2400+ fps is being done using RL-17 behind the 320gr Woodleigh. That's not mythology, and from a 20.5" barrel!

Varget is not a good powder for 286's to 320's because it's too fast burning. Yes, you'll get good accuracy at very slow speeds, but we are not target shooters, but hunters not needing 3/4" groups on paper!

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Hummmm- Good results but have never recovered a moose or elk after shooting them with an Accubond? Whistling

Varget and Barnes TSX have always worked in my 9.3 x 62 R8. Two weeks ago this combo took a Cape Buffalo in Moz. 100 yard shot, through the right shoulder, through the heart, out the other side. Took three steps and was stone dead. Haven't taken elk or moose with this combo, but don't have any doubts it would work.

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I second the 250gr Accubond. Moose and elk don't need anything bigger. I have had great results with them in my 9.3X64 and have yet to recover one.

Jeremy
 
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Hummmm- Good results but have never recovered a moose or elk after shooting them with an Accubond? Whistling

Varget and Barnes TSX have always worked in my 9.3 x 62 R8. Two weeks ago this combo took a Cape Buffalo in Moz. 100 yard shot, through the right shoulder, through the heart, out the other side. Took three steps and was stone dead. Haven't taken elk or moose with this combo, but don't have any doubts it would work.

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Originally posted by farbedo:
I second the 250gr Accubond. Moose and elk don't need anything bigger. I have had great results with them in my 9.3X64 and have yet to recover one.

Jeremy


I think he was referring to the recovery of a bullet.
 
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I think he was too.

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RWS H-Mantle 258 grs. Used in red deer and wild boar, with two 9,3 x 62, 18" barrel and 24" barrel. Devastating. Regards. Hector
 
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The 250grs Rhino is a hell of a bullet at 2550-2600fps in the -62 Smiler

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I like the PRVI 286gr bullet. I am pushing that bullet @ 2300fps +/-?. Whatever 55gr/Varget gives me out of my 23", 9.3x62M, R8 bbl. Accuracy is right at an inch for 3 shots @ 100yds. I am zeroed in at 150yds and 4 1/2" low @ 200yds. Good enough for me. I have not tried the Hornady 286gr bullet so have no opinion on that bullet. Carl L.
 
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I realize the topic asked about the PRVI and the Hornady 286 gr bullets. Last weekend I dropped a moose with the Nosler 286 gr Partition at 140 yards. Pretty sure either of the above will work as you can expect a pass through if you don't hit bone.
 
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