For many years the bullets I've used in the 7x57 and the 7mm-08 have been a 140 or a 150 grainers.
Yesterday, down at the range, I tried some 175 grainers, they were impressive. After sighting in and since I was the only person there, I put up some empty half pint plastic bottles at 100 yards. I've never before seen any thing knocked down with such authority in the x57 I'll have to give them a go on deer.
Do many members use the 175 grain bullet on deer and if so which ones?
Load information would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Two of my mates have 7x57s, one in rimed.
They are also setting up to shoot 175grn projectiles.
One guy is using 175grn SWIFT A FRAMES and the other will be using 173grn RWS H Mantels primarily for the use on Sambar and Wapiti Deer and African Plains Game.

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I normally use the 160gr Speer Hot Core in my 7x57 and it pretty much lets the blood out and makes venison out of deer in quick fashion.

But I bought some "blemished" 175gr RNSP bullets from Midway (probably Hornady mfg) this fall, accuracy with H414 is satisfactory and they really seem to have a lot of WHAP! on the 100 and 200 yard steel plates at my range. Next year they're going hunting.

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Originally posted by ozhunter:
Two of my mates have 7x57s, one in rimed.
They are also setting up to shoot 175grn projectiles.
One guy is using 175grn SWIFT A FRAMES and the other will be using 173grn RWS H Mantels primarily for the use on Sambar and Wapiti Deer and African Plains Game.

Very interested in how the 175gr A frame does. Does it show satisfactory expansion? What sort of velocity is it launched at?

Back in old communist days in ex-Yugoslavia there were vast numbers of cheap Czhech combos mainly chambered in 16 or 12ga/and 7x57R that were used for biggest game (red deer, boars and bears) using exclusively S&B 173gr SPCE bullet - cheap and surprisingly accurate - satisfactory on game (bit too soft for my taste - wont shoot through a grown red stag shoulders but you can expect them to make a mess of internals and reach the ribs on opposite side).

SPCE 7x57R 173 gr

I have had limited success accuracy wise with the 175(modified)grain bullets (Nosler Partitions). My best success has been with the 160 grain NPs. Having said that I will try Alf's load.
Mouse, those SPCE bullets look like they have a "step" in them! Any idea why?
Peter.

the step is a Scharfrand, sp? it does what it´s intended to do, it will cut a hole in the pelt of the boar or deer shot and by doing so making sure the hole will not close over and the end result is a better odds for a good blood trail should one need to track the game.

BTW I have a R version and I love the 175 grains Hornady, good solid performance.

Best regards Chris

My old rolling block does well with with Hornady's 175 grain round nose bullets. I've got a few boxes of vintage 170 grain Sierras that work just as well too.

We have used the 175 gr Hornady RN for years and have loved it's performance.

One of only two rifles I have had custom built is a 7x57 on a 1909. It was my plains game rifle for my last trip to Zimbabwe. It was built to shoot 175gr Partitions. I load 44grs of IMR4350 and have found it to be accurate (3 shot groups well under 1") and effective on everything I have used it on up thru Kudu and at ranges in excess of 250yds. It is the ONLY bullet I use in the 7x57.

Both of the Mod. 98s with 19", 7 X 57 barrels shot the 175s nicely; one a little better than the other. Although the barrels were to be the same one has a .030" deeper throat.

Although I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread, the 175 in a well loaded 7 X 57 is a good Elk combo.A premium bullet is not needed. roger

My rifle likes the 175 gr. Hornady spire point on top of 46.5 grains of AA4350. I used it on several deer and feral hogs. Very good bullet. I have gone to the 150 grain Ballistic Tips in this rifle for a bit quicker kills on deer and slightly better accuracy.

I indeed do use the Nosler 175-grain Partition bullet in my 7X57mm's, and my 7mm Remington Magnum as well. While the 175 is a little on the heavy side for just deer, I sometimes hunt where deer and elk are possible targets on the same hunt. Nosler's 175 has a relatively high ballistic coefficient, and in my long-throat 7X57's, I can get MV's over 2600 FPS with good accuracy using RL22 (or Norma MRP1). AS a matter of fact, with a long throat chamber, I believe it is impossible to get excessive pressures with any RL22 load and bullets of 175 grains or less, that fits into a 7X57mm case and still permits one to seat a bullet.

In the 7mm Mag., IMR 7828 will produce over 3000 FPS with this same Nosler Partition bullet. Such a load has proven as effective as any I've ever used on elk.

The 175's don't ruin as much meat as a lighter, faster bullet, either!

I load 175 grain Hornadys with a chaege of 40 grains of IMR 3031 and a large rifle primer.. the load came from an older Hornady Load manual...

out of a 22 inch barrel, the load data stated I should be getting something like 2400 fps.. however seating the bullets to magazine length on the Ruger and Model 70 I have ( which are throated for a long seated bullet), the chronograph says that I am getting 2650 fps instead.. with no complaints by me...

with a high sectional density, of course penetration is pretty darn deep...

Several years ago while testing bullets and loads, I shot some 175 grain Corelokts with a charge that was meant to give an MV of only 1800 fps.. recoil was of course low, but at 100 yds, the bullets were penetrating thru 18 inches of wood as a backstop ( pine tree)...

So those 175 grainers also don't need a lot of velocity to really do their job...

within 250 yds, I love the Hornady 175 RNs or the older Sierra 170 grain RN...

Thanks guys.
I've just orderd a box of Hornady 175 gr RN bullets and a Lee factory crimp die.
You might like to know that the ammo used on the range was Winchester factory, it gave 1&1/8 inch groups at 100 yards.
Oh, the Rifle, it's a BSA Viscount, the model with the long claw extractor, probably of 1960's manufacture, it's a nice rifle and one of the few sporting rifles, other than Mauser, with an action of 7x57 length.

I've had good luck with 175 grain Nosler Partition bullets in my 7x57R, although I am finding that my rifle shoots more accurately with 150-160 grain bullets.

Hi,
I use 160 and 175 grs bullets in my two 7x57.
My 1893 DWM original sporting rifle has the barrel slightly pitted and the throat eroded by its former use and, presumably, improper cleaning. I think this may be the reason it can use 1 or 2 grains more of IMR / XMR 4350s and R19 / R22 then my other 7x57, a Mauser 98 (1935) with an unused Chilean M1912 Steyr barrel. Both has long throats and I can reach safely 2550/2600 fps with 175 grs bullets and 2700/2750 fps with 154/160 grs. bullets. I have used Hornady spire points, Nosler partition and Speer Mag-Tip with exelent results on European Wild Boar and Red Deer here in Patagonia.

In my 7mm-08 compact (20 inch barrel) I got about 2450 average with 175 grain bullets. Hornady spirepoints. I just made up 10 to see what velocity I would get. Little less than top load in Hornady manual. Didn't test for accuracy. Was several years ago. Probably should load up some more and see what they will do accuracy wise, and what damage they will do to feral hogs.

By the way, I have had a beautiful M Schoenauer GK in 7x64 in mint condition. And I never could get safely more than 2700 fps and 2800/2850 fps with that same bullets. I like the 7x57 a lot more than the former one, and for a variety of reasons.

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Originally posted by ALF:
I use Hornady Interlock 175 gr bullets in many of my old 7x57's ( i have a whole safe full of them )

Alf, please, please stop making comments like that, I'll be wanting to collect 7x57's myself.
Mind you a man could do worse and get an itch for a 270 Win.
Calm down you 270 guys

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Love that 7 X 57 Swede. Eat your heartout HC. roger

The greatest tribute to the efficiency of the 175 grain "pill" in the 7mm Mauser was made by the British.

For learning from the Boer War the 303 Mk VII round - the cartridge that was used by us in WW1, WW2 and Korea - was our "version" of the Mauser round used against us by the Boers!

The ballistics being identical for all practical purposes. 303 Mk VII = 174 grain @ 2450 fps.

I really like the 175s in the deep woods with my old Remington 7mm-08. I replaced that rifle with a new Kimber M84, which does not seem to like them, damn it! I've shot clean through Deer at a steep quartering angle after going though the shoulder blade, and out the opposite side ham, with the Hornady RNs at only 10 yards away. I would think standard bullets like the Hornadys,as opposed to premium bullets would be prefered at the lower velocities the 7x57 & 7-08s shoots them. They should expand well enough and still penetrate forever. I believe even Elmer Keith viewed the 7x57 with 175 grain bullets ONLY, was a good killer. Good shootin'

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Alf, The 303 Mauser looks good to my eye. If you don't want it, I would be happy to take it off your hands. I'd take it down the bush and have a go at a deer with it.

I've got some Speer 175 grain Mag-Tips that I plan to load up for my Tikka 7mm-08.

Hi Hunts,

I have used many Speer Mag Tip 160 and 175 grs in my 7x57, mostly in Red Deer. They are (the bullets and the deer as well...) very tought and usually at the 7x57 velocities they pass completely the deer with shots in the chest at 90º or so. And especially the 160 grs M Tip seems to be designed for the 7x57 because the lenght of the bullet and the cannelure location.

I love the 175 gr. Nosler, Hornady, and Woodleighs in my 7x57..My guns have a long magazine (06 length) and long throats. I get an easy 2600 FPS with low pressure in my Brnos and my G33-40 custom with that 175 gr. bullet set out half way to the cannalure..The only powder I use in the 7x57 is H414...

I have used this caliber to hunt deer, elk and Nilgai in the US and for plainsgame and buffalo in Africa.

I liked the 150 gr. Nosler in the 7-08 as the 175 gr. had to seated too deep in the 08 case IMO and took up the powder space.

The Hornady 175 RN at the original military velocity (2300-2500) is a stone dead killer. My M98 scout rifle made from a 1912 Chilean rifle is 6 for 6 on whitetails. Faster velocity is unnecessary.

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My first center fire rifle was a tang safety, Ruger 77 made in 1975. It had the long throat mentioned above and would fire Remington factory 175's in a glover leaf at 100yds. Velocity was 2450fps if memory serves.

I tried everything, when speed was king, to get a lighter bullet to shoot as well, which started me into hand loading. I finally got my best results from a 150gr Remington CoreLoc. Upon examination, I found that the bullet with the most bearing surface shot the best in the rifle.

My step-son has the rifle and using 175gr handloads killed beautiful South Georgia bucks the past two years. Now I know that there isn't anything a 150gr bullet will do, that a 175 grain bullet won't do better. Kudude