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Hi guys, A friend of mine would like to buy a Remington XCR in LH but he wants more velocity. He was thinking about the 300 Ultra but is not too excited about the recoil. If he elects to get the 30-06 he's thinking about getting a chamber job for the AI version. I can't seem to find any load data on it. Do you guys think it's worth the trouble? Is there that much more to gain going to the AI? Thanks, | ||
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Another alternative is Federal High Energy ammo. With a 180 gr NP they are rated at 2880. I get 2860 in a 24 inch barrel. Here's something to read: http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w3006imp.html ............................................. | |||
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If he wants a wildcat go for it. If he is expecting an increase in velocity then save his $$$. If you look in a Nosler #4 loading manual you'll basically no gain. Speaking from experience about 1% unless you really push pressure. A Hawk, Gibbs, Howell all based on the 06 will give you a little more gain but you are still talking maybe 100fps. There are several ways to gain some velocity without making a jump to the ultra. The 308Norma, 300Wmag even the 300Wby will give you the biggest portion of an Ultras gain without near the recoil. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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the reason for his choice is because he is hung up on the XCR and being a lefty as well, his choices are limited to a few calibers in that rifle. He currently has a 30-06 Sako rifle, walnut stock, blued barrel. He wants the stainless XCR, & more authoritative caliber but like I mentioned his choices are slim in that model. Thanks for the help, I'll fill him in on the AI performance and the rest is up to him. | |||
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In a remington it would cost him about the same to go 300Wmag rechambered from an 06 than a proper AI. To do a proper AI the barrels should be set back one turn. For a 300Wmag just rechamber and a simple bolt face work. A 24" 300Wmag would be plenty. Pick up far more velocity than an AI give up very little to the ultra and kick a heck of a lot less. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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don't forget my favorite-the .30-338 off a .338 win mag case. Rechamber the barrel and tweak the rails some and bolt face of course and you're good to go. | |||
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+1 You're not getting much of a gain by going to an AI. | |||
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I have owned and hunted a .30-06 Ackley for about 15 years. I do not feel that it offers me anything particularily different other than the case! Velocities from it's 23" barrel are 2850 ft/sec with 180 Noslers. That is the most accurate load, though I can push the Velocity to 3,000, with pressure and R22. If I wanted a bigger .30 I would opt for the standard .300 Winchester or Weatherby version.  Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Hey Beretta, All the 300RUMs I've seen come with a very effective Muzzle Brake, and the recoil is not as big of a deal as is the noise. But the 300RUM also comes with 3 Intensity Levels of Factory Ammo and one is sure to please him. One key thing to remember is if he gets a 300WinMag, 300WbyMag or a 300RUM, he can always down-load it to even 30Carbine levels if he wants to. There is a tiny advantage in an attempt to Magnamize a 30-06, but a HUGE advantage being able to down-load the larger cartridges. Best of luck to your buddy. | |||
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I'll agree, he's in a tough spot. I don't think he will gain anything significant with an AI, except some expense. The ultra mag is a viable solution, but I would advise him to shoot one before plunking down his coins. They border on the upper limit of "fun", and many shooters do not deal with that amount of recoil - whether they admit it or not. Were it me, I'd get the 7 mag, and never look back. That's assuming that big bears are not on the agenda. Then it would be the UM all the way. It's the little things that matter. | |||
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the XCR-LH is available in 300WM which ranks right behind 30-06, 7mmRem and 223Rem in popularity. If he wants "a little more" than a 30-06 but doesn't wan an ultra mag then get a 300winchester mag. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Allan, It is no longer listed. That would have been my first choice, too. XCR Spec Sheet It's the little things that matter. | |||
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thanks for the info, he likes the 300 winnie idea. I think he's sold. Thanks again. | |||
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The Seirra, Nosler later editions have 06AI data. 4350's, 4831's are good places to start. I run 60-61 gr of IMR 4831 with 180 grainers in my 06AI. Casey | |||
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