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I have just purchased a new Ruger M77 STS in .300 Win mag.
Can anyone tell me the recoil figures for this rifle compared to say a .308 Win. I will use the rifle for pigs & wild dogs over long distance, any suggestions on projectile weight & powder weights using ADI 2208, 2209 would be appreciated.
 
Posts: 124 | Location: Newcastle Australia | Registered: 23 September 2004Reply With Quote
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I am not sure which model Ruger you are talking about, my guess is the synthetic stainless model. The recoil in this rifle will be noticable at the bench for sure and I would immediatly replace the stock recoil pad with a better one. On the other hand these rifles are reliable and tough. I'd pick for a bullet the 180 grain Speer Hotcor spitzer but have no experience with the powders mentioned.
 
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Check out the Beartooth Bullets website and they have a recoil calculator.
 
Posts: 214 | Location: Cochrane Alberta Canada | Registered: 22 July 2001Reply With Quote
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Here is Hodgdon data for the 300 Winchester

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/rifle/300winma.php

Varget = 2208
H4350 = 2209
H4831 = 2213SC
H1000 = 2217
Retumbo = 2225
50BMG = 2218

ADI sells the powders to Hodgdon and Hodgdon renames them.

Mike
 
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Thanks Mike375, I wasn`t aware of the Hodgon brand numbers for the Australian made ADI brand of powders.
Cheers Peter
 
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Thanks rickt300, I listed the rifle as a .300 Win mag STS. You are correct in guessing stainless synthetic, I was attempting to abbreviate stainless synthetic with the use of STS in the description. My apologies, in future I`ll just type the full wording to avoid confusion. The 180gn Speer sounds a good choice.
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Morton3----I will give you a fomula for recoil factor. This formula does not give foot lbs but just a rule of thumb factor for comparison. I find it to be a fairly good comparison. It is not linear in that a factor of over 20 is considered a kicker so to speak and by the time you are down to 12 or so there is almost no kick. Heres the formula: Bullet weight(in grains)+powder charge(in grains)X muzzle velocity(in fps)divided by 3500(constant) divided by rifle weight in pounds =recoil factor. "Typical" 300 win mag with 150 grain bullet would be around 27 the .308 with same weight bullet around 19---a pretty BIG difference based on the non linear I mentioned.
 
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dont be scared to use the lighter bullets, the 110 varminters were accurate. My gun doesn't start to kick 'till I shoot 180grainers
 
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Thanks for the formula Carpetman, it gives me an idea that the recoil won`t be as bad as some have told me.

Anyway I`ll just suck it & see as they say

Hyena Your suggestion is a good one, but I`m guessing I`ll try to stick around the 150gn mark.

But at some stage like most shooters I`ll try the lightest possible bullet with the most powder I can cram in "just to see how fast it can go".

I`m guessing a 110gn out of a .300 Win mag should be up around 3,500 fps. More than adequate for those pesky wabbits

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I have both a .300 Win Mag and a .308, both in Remington Rifles. Difference in recoil is considerable. The .308 is in a Hogue overmoulded stock and is a real pussy-cat. The .300 is in an ADL synthetic, and the best thing I ever did was put one of their R3, Limbsaver recoil pads on it - and I use a thick foam pad when shooting of the bench. The main thing you simply must do with a heavy kicker is concentrate on your shooting form - and don't crawl the stock. If you don't have a firm hold on the rifle when you fire it, it will clobber you. That said, when I pulled the trigger on a nice 8-point whitetail, I never felt the shot. The buck did though, and he crashed about 20 feet away.
 
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