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would like for you guys that have personal experience with these to tell me what you think about them...As far as reloading,how well they kill and what you have taken with them,best bullets in each and if you had to pick one or the other which one and why. I have not had a chance to use either one and was just looking opinions and advice. Thx Chuck | ||
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I shoot a 350 mag in a Remington guide gun. I like to shoot 180 grain Hornady single shot pistol bullets out of it on whitetails. Plenty hot round. It crushes deer. I am sure it would be a wrecking ball on whatever you pointed it at with the right bullet. Would love to fool around with 8mm mag. I would probably rather have an 8 mag because I don't have any experience with the round. Seems about perfect for elk. | |||
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Yea, that's what I just picked up is the 673 guide gun...I plan on using it on whitetail in NC.The 8mm is a 700BDL, looks like a pretty good bullet selection for the 8mm.Thx 390ish You guys keep it coming | |||
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I also have the Rem 673 Guide Gun and, if you can get by the shark fin front sight, It's a great little gun. The iron sights are good but I added a 2x7x32 Leupold scope. It's accurate, recoil is not an issue, and it's fun to shoot. I took a nice 260 lb black bear last fall with a one shot pass thrugh the heart, lung, and liver. One problem using spitzer bullets with long ogives - the magazine is a litle short and they don't feed well. A round or flat nosed bullet seems to work better. I used Swift 225gr A Frames - just the right length and able to accept a light crimp. I believe the load was 55 gr of IMR 4064. "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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Oday450, Good info. yea I will be putting a scope on and I have 2 lbs of IMR 4064 powder I plan on using in the 350 and my 444 marlin.I will only use the rounds on whitetail deer around NC so I'm still not sure which bullet to go with but the 180SSP bullet for the money does look good | |||
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Chuck, Where is Creedmoor in NC? I'm, reeally interested in finding a small place a day's drive or less from Washington DC for vacations and later retirement. Ashville is one place that has caught my eye. Any suggestions? "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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I had a 350 Rem mag once and liked it. I used it on deer and turkeys with 200gr Hornadys, and planed on using it on bigger stuff with 250 Hornadays, and 250 Speers, those were the only tough bullets avialable back then. Now days one of the 225 Premiums would be a hard choice to beat. I have never had an 8MM Rem Mag, but I shot a frends some. It is like a 300 Mag with lighter bullets and like a 338 with the heavier ones. In other words it will be a great hunting cartridge with good bullets. With an 8mm Rem Mag and a 350 Rem Mag you could be a poster boy for a Retro Remington add. Your not looking for a 6.5 MM Rem mag are you. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Creedmoor is just NW of Raleigh I myself don't like NC I like it out west..Wa State N E 450 No2, Might be interested in a 6.5...I do like the cartridge. What do you have in mind? | |||
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I do not have one, was just kidding as the 6.5 was another of the Remington cartridges that did not make it, but with the "introduction" of the new short Mags, just shows you that some ideas are hatched "before their time". DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Also, the Speer manual has 350 loads with .357 mag bullets. Would probably be great for groundhogs if they shoot half way straight. My experience is that Remington loads the factory 200 grainers a little light. I loaded up some Speer 250s a year or so ago at book max level and they were pretty brisk. I shoot mine with a 1970s vintage Redfield 1.75-5x scope. I think the 673 is a slick package. I would really like to have a custom shop 8 mag with a light green synthetic stock. | |||
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That was my next question..I was told I can run light loads with the .357 pistol bullets. Anyone have much experience with this? 390ish, Yea, this 8mm RM I just picked up is Sweet...I can't deside what bullet to go with for whitetails..I was kinda looking at the 180g Bal. Tip Just woundering if I wanted to run a lighter bullet in one cartridge and a heavy bullet in the other..should I go heavy in the 8 mag or heavy in the 350???It's just for my personal fun this fall. The shooting I will be doing is going to be less then 100yrds probley but I just like trying diffrent cartridges out on them each year...This year I have elected the 444 Marlin w/ the hornady 265g bullet,8mm RM,350 RM for my new test and my 257 wby again(being in a wheelchair and hunting by myself most of the time I like to knock them down where they stand) | |||
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I understand - There are a lot of places further West that I would be interested in; however, my wife wants to stay within a days trip distance of the children/grand children and they are all in the Washington DC/Maryland area. WA/OR are a lot like Germany where I did a great deal of hunting. Northern New Mexico is nice. I had a great time in Idaho in the Gospel Wilderness area. But ... somewhere in the NC, VA, WV mountains looks like the best I will be able to do. "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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One good way to do a 350 rem mag or 6.5 rem mag is to take a rifle of the 7mag, 300winmag or 338winmag persuasion and rebarrel it to one of those. That way you can get a 24" custom barrel and a magazine with plenty of room to load the bullet out to get more case volume. That's what I'm doing with a Browning BBR 300 win mag that had a detachable magazine that would not let me load out to the lands. With the 6.5 rem mag I have plenty of room in the magazine even when I seat a bullet where the base is halfway down the shoulder That's a 130 grain Accubond 6.5 caliber bullet. The case holds about 63 grains of RL22 up to the base of the neck. ____________________________________ There are those who would misteach us that to stick in a rut is consistency - and a virtue, and that to climb out of the rut is inconsistency - and a vice. - Mark Twain | Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others. ___________________________________ | |||
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Regarding the 350RemMag ... get a Ruger with 1:12" barrel and pay the little extra to have the magazine box opened. It'll make using everything from 158gr (or lighter) to a 310gr Woodleigh a possibility. The Rem673 is too limited in magazine box length and rifle barrel twist to make it the versatile all-rounder which the 350RemMag has the potential to be. Regarding the 8mmRemMag ... I replaced my BDL's barrel with a 26" barrel. It's a fantastic chambering for reaching out with moderate recoil. Factory amunition was conservatively loaded ... Reloader 22 and 25 will now allow you to beat factory ballistics with relative ease. Some excellent projectiles have also appeared for it thanks to the 325WSM. Cheers... Con | |||
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I have 2 lbs of Relaoder 22 as well(I use it in my 257wby)So any thoughts on using the 180g Bal Tip in the 8mm? | |||
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My experience with the Ballistic tips in a .280 REM were all bad, they acted like hand grenades, little penetration and horrible surface wounds on antelope. I would think if you wanted to shoot chucks at long range, that bullet/cartridge combo would allow for spectacular "discombuberations" of chucks. "I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution | |||
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I got a Ruger 350 rem mag for my birthday this year, and love it. Anytime your first handload prints like this, you know you have a good gun. Now I'll admit accuracy with the factory 200 gr loads was horrible. But I have no use for those loads anyhow. My thinking is a 225 Nosler partition or Barnes TSX @ 2700 fps will take any NA game, out past where most folks ought to be shooting. This in a fairly light rifle that doesn't have too much recoil. The 8mm mag to me is a specialized long range range medium bore rifle. It can deliver the smack way out there, but the rifle will have to be heavier to abosrb the increased recoil, and 8mm bullet choices are fairly limited and not stocked on every shelf. I'd always take a 340 whetherby over an 8mm rem mag. __________________________________________________ The AR series of rounds, ridding the world of 7mm rem mags, one gun at a time. | |||
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I shoot both these calibers. I have ha dtwo 350s, one (the Rem 600) went to Alaska for an easy packing rifle for a relative, and the other I built on a modified 98 Mauser action. Slim wood stock, slim 20" barrel, very easy to carry. With the Mauser action I can load out to 3.25" col, and I get 2615 fps with 250 gr Speers. It has taken deer, moose, elk, and one wolf. My 8 Rem Mag is a 700 action, with a 26" custom bbl. I get 3100 fps with 220 gr Hornadys, and have just recently started testing it with 250 gr woodleighs. It too is used for deer, moose and elk. Personally, I think a fast 8 Mag is the best all around elk gun there is, FWIW. - dan "Intellectual truth is eternally one: moral or sentimental truth is a geographic and chronological accident that varies with the individual" R.F. Burton | |||
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Never tried the 350 RM, but I love the big 8mm. I load for my father's rifle...he's killed dozen's of moose with it since he picked it up in the mid '70s. He still likes the 220gr Hornady's as it drives tacks with that load. I am planning on getting my 300 Winnie rebarreled to an 8mm RM soon. Just need to get my arse in gear and get it down to my favorite 'smith. Cheers, Canuck | |||
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I love my 8mm Mag. Loaded with 200gr Accubonds at 3200fps it not only shoots very accurately (1.5" @ 200yds), but it really hits elk and moose hard. | |||
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So If A guy were only shooting avg. size (east coast) whitetails from the 8MAG Which bullet would you guys pick? | |||
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I have an 8mm Remington Magnum. It started out as a 7mm Remington Magnum and it was rebarreled with a 26 in Douglas medium weight barrel. I have never shot anything but 220 grain bullets in it. This is just my opinion but I think it is the 220 grain bullet that really sets the 8 Mag. apart from the 300's. The 220 grain bullets have a sectional density of .301. I shoot the now discontinued 220 grain Hornady bullets for practice but my particular rifle shows a decided preference for the 220 grain Swift bullets. I have used Reloder 22 in the past and experimented with Reloder 25. With either powder, velocities in excess of 2900 fps. are easily achievable and that would be a fantastic load for ANYTHING in North America as well as a great plains game load for Africa. At one time, I thought that Remington was going to discontinue the 8 Mag. so I bought a bunch of brass from Midway. If anyone needs brass, let me know. Dave Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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Wallace I have a 350 rem built on a Mauser 98 action that allows bullets to be seated well out.It has a 24 in barrel. My rifle has shown a preference for the 225 gr TSX bullets .It gives up very little ballistically to my 338 Win with a lot less powder. I've only had this rifle a couple years but everything I've shot with it just flops down right there. I also have a Rem 700 in 8mm Rem with a 24 in barrel. The best performance I have obtained is with the 200gr X bullet. This is one calibre that would benifit from a 26 in barrel has Dan has already pointed out. Performance wise I would rate it between the 338 & 340 Wby. That is not faint praise. | |||
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I would use the 200gr. Nosler Accubond or partition for all of the lower 48. | |||
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JABS, just my humble opinion, but I always felt that if you are going to shoot the 200 grain bullets you might as well just shoot one of the 300's. You can get more than enough velocity and the 200 grain 300's have better sectional density than the 200 grain 8mm bullets. Dave Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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I understand what your saying but east coast whitetail??I really don't need a bullet that's more for elk and moose which I think the 200+ is for. Wouldn't the 150-180grainers be better? And what could I expect from them performance wise? | |||
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Holy cow man! An 8 mag on deer!?!?! A friend used one here two years ago on a 62" bull moose and it piled the bull up in a hurry. I own that rifle now, haven't done anything with it but this thread has been interesting. | |||
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Coyote: You are correct, of course. I guess I have never seen my 8 Mag. as a deer rifle although I know it will do the job. There are many calibers that are better suited for that task. In North America, I see it as moose, bear, and perhaps one of the finest elk cartridges ever! In Africa, it would be a superb caliber for the larger antelope and that is where I think it really shines with a 220 grain bullet. Dave Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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I've used a .350 Mag in a rebarreled Rem Mdl 7 for several years. It's got a 21" barrel and I use the Rem 200 PSP's for deer with good success. They generally don't go far if at all. | |||
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coyotewallace the great thing about using overpowered rifles on deer is that in most instances there is not a poor bullet selection. i would hunt whitetails all day with the 150 grain hornady spire point at 3250-3300 fps. in any event, i would stay away from premium bullets for whitetails in a high horsepower round. you can develop a good load or loads on the cheap and shoot your hunting round for practice. i am glad you picked up the 8mm. there is a used one in a shop nearby, but they are mighty proud--it has some rough spots on the wood--mdl 700 and the asking price is $599.00. let us hear how that thing shoots. | |||
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