Ideas please? Loads, anything to look for on the gun? First thing I notice is the J-lock. I can get a PTG collar from Midway. Is that 673 same as the M7?
I have 275 gr Hornadys, 180 gr Barnes, 200 gr RN and Spitzer bulk Remington bullets. Some 280 gr cast.

The 200 grain Hornady pushed by IMR 3031 shot lights out in mine. I recall max being listed quite differently in different sources, but I may be mistaken.

Very cool rifle and round. With 200gr TSX and Re17 at near maximum pressure I get just under 3100 fps muzzle speed and good accuracy from my custom 24" barrel Remington 798. With 310gr 2500 fps and with 250gr 2750 fps using Re17.

The predecessor to the 673 (circa 1963).

Yes the the 673 is built on a model 7 action. The model number designates; 6 is a tribute to the original model 600 & 660's, 7 is the action it was built on and 3 the year it came out (2003).

I bought one back in 2003 and still have it. It's by far my favorite black bear rifle. I haven't been too imaginative as far as bullet choices and have pretty much stuck with 225 Nosler Partitions because they have worked so well. If you don't load Nosler sells ammo with 225 NP bullets.

I'm really not much of a Remington fan but my 673 isn't going anywhere. I've shot too many bears and other stuff with it.

I forgot the legend of 673. Found out its meaning when I went for a bolt shroud. Didn't find a PTG listing for one, only 700. So I went to Remington and had to buy a complete firing pin assembly just for the shroud. It was $78.35 shipping and all. Not too terrible to get rid of the J-lock. But the usual $30 something would be better. Did that with the J-lock on the 700 Ti. Did the 2003 era Remingtons have the Walker trigger? Packy

Great round and great rifle; buy it. I have 4 350s and have built several more. I have a 600 clone on a 7 action with beech and walnut stock, a Ruger 77 tang safety with paddle stock, a Win 70 short action, and a Rem 700 on a long action.
It is a uniformly very accurate and versatile cartridge.

That rib on the 600 pictures is a nice touch. Wouldn't expect that on a Remington..

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Did the 2003 era Remingtons have the Walker trigger?
Packy

Yes it has the old trigger which is good. Far better than the new one.

As far as the J-lock on the bolt shroud, I never messed with it so it doesn't bother me. I would like to get one of the after market safety's that lock the bolt though. I can't stand the always unlocked bolt that Remington seems to think is better.

The trigger looks a bit different than my 600s. Maybe I'm just not remembering. But the old trigger sets sooooo crisp. I can set it to 3.5 pounds but crisp, it is memorable on the old 600. Makes me wonder though if you can find a replacement trigger today. Obviously I haven't looked yet. Packy

Yes replacement triggers are available for model 7's.

I don't need a safety. My wife might argue but the safety is in my head and my finger index, alongside the gun. I don't need a safety that could be fiddled with when I'm not looking, then have the gun fail to fire under serious circumstance. Maybe a hog or other wounded animal charging. My IL on my Smith Jframe has been deactivated. It is replaced. See the tag I ascribe to in my sig. line. Lawyers, don't call me I'll call you. Packy

J-Lock replaced, looking ok now. Will adjust the trigger next. Then address some of the fore end contacting the barrel on the left side, Load some rounds, and go shoot? Forgot the mount problem. I have a Leupold 1.5-5X with #4 reticle in Leupold QD mounts. Trijicon RMR won't go on the Weaver mounts. For that I have EGW Picatinny bases on the way. That should make it an easy transition if I want to get red dot simplicity to sort something out in the brush. I think I need a 22 set up with similar red dot to practice. The empty cases from Nosler are $57 for 25. Cheap practice is still practice. Packy

Cabelas had a good supply a while back so I stocked up. Seems to be scarce nowadays.

I have some Nosler brass and decided to make one more order so I will have 50 by about Tuesday or Wednesday. The Nosler brass looks like match prepped cases. Thanks for the photo. The 310gr is a Woodleigh? I thought also when I go south or come back I will use uS 65 and stop by Sierra to get some 358 bulk bullets. I used to burn lots of 165 gr hunting bullets through my 7.62x51 Hk style rifle. That evil semiauto made my trigger finger twitch. And even though they are culls you could not tell at 100 or 200 yards that they weren't full price projectiles. Not much visually either. Sometimes there was a small extra tip on the soft point. Just rubbed it off with gloved fingers. I keep exam gloves in the gun area for lots of things. Thanks for the ideas.
I was thinking further about bullets, went to Midway and saw 225 Gr tipped and bonded in bulk. I ordered 150 of them. Packy

310gr Woodleigh. Requires a minimum 1:14 twist for proper stability. My custom Remington 798 .350 RM has a 1:12 twist 24" barrel.

I’ve had issues with my .350 RM and longer ammo. Mine is a 673, and I really doubt I could stuff those long loaded 310’s into the rifle. In fact, I recall reloading manuals stating that any bullets greater than 225 gr intruded into the case too much.

The biggest advocate of the .350, Jeff Cooper, had his personal rifle made with a longer action and was able to lengthen the COAL by .1”, which he claimed made it an honest 2500 FPS cartridge with a 250 grain a frame.

If you are going to seat way out there, your probably better off with a long action and a .35 whelen.

My custom .350 RM is on a long action. Very efficient round with decreased seating depth for increased case capacity. Using Re17 which is designed for short magnum cases and 250gr Hornady muzzle speed is 2750 fps at near maximum pressure with good accuracy.

How much r17 to get to 2750 sir?

No safe application to any other .350 RM rifles just mine only. 2750 fps muzzle speed with the 250gr Hornady in my and only my particular 1 of a kind custom rifle for my particular and uniquely assembled handloads and no others.

Also good results with the 310gr Woodleigh. Groups as shown at 100 meters off the bench.

4sixteen, old Jeff Cooper was onto something wasn't he? I read every word he wrote that I could get my eyes on. I am a scout rifle lover too. Right now I have several candidates for scoutlike objects. Also a Steyr Scout I shot last night. .308 is great but a 358 Winchester or a 350 RM is even greater. I also have a 458 American as a Pseudo-scout in the lineup. I think one of my Mausers will end up as the 350 RM long. I have several boxes of 275 gr Rn in the old Hornadys. Packy

Something to be said for all of his wisdom for sure. I have a 358 Winchester BLR takedown in scout mode. A favorite in the collection. Slickest-handling rifle.
I load it with 310gr Woodleigh's at 2100 fps muzzle speed. Moose stomper.

Couple of comments; you can't seat bullets any further on a Whelen than you can on a 350 Mag. It it the throat which stops the bullet; not the magazine.
Which is why I have a throater and make them as long as I need.
Now, Jeff Cooper; I read him and respected him. But the Scout rifle concept is the dumbest thing to ever hit the shooting world. Slower than a regular scope and harder to use due to the narrow FOV. He just made that one up.

Some very nice rifles, these 350 RMs.

Always wanted Remmy's original classic short-action carbine - the 18" 600 with the futuristic appointments, like that rib.

Still, a model 673 might be the better choice, if you can still find one. Cut the barrel back to 18" and bed the action into a synthetic stock (to trim the weight).

Yes they are very nice. I wonder why Browning didn't chamber their BLR in caliber as well?

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Couple of comments; you can't seat bullets any further on a Whelen than you can on a 350 Mag. It it the throat which stops the bullet; not the magazine.
Which is why I have a throater and make them as long as I need.
Now, Jeff Cooper; I read him and respected him. But the Scout rifle concept is the dumbest thing to ever hit the shooting world. Slower than a regular scope and harder to use due to the narrow FOV. He just made that one up.

The neck length of the cartridge is longer on a .35 Whelen, and seating the bullet deeper in the case utilizes more of the powder space in a .350 RM than a .35W.

The .350 RM I have the magazine limits seating bullets out before the throat does with 225 and 250 grain AFrames. If you have a different rifle (mine is a 673) then it may be limited by how the gun was reamed in the chamber.

As to the scout concept, while I personally can’t use the IER scope as fast and as well as the more conventional styles, some can. The remainder of the concept (short, light, handy carbine of major caliber with back up large aperture peep iron sights and a properly set up stock for using all the above together is sound.

I’ve played with the IER scout scope enough to see it works better than iron sights for me, but not as well as the new wide field of view low to moderate magnification scopes like the Swarovski Z6 1-6 or 1.7-10 do. Given the optics at the time, I see why he was enamored of it, and feel if a fellow is willing to spend the time with it, a “scout” scope will work out to 400 or so on game as well as most conventional variables of similar magnification.

DPCD it is sad that a man with your experience can't "get it". Your loss not ours. The Scout rifle is a good concept and it must be practiced with to "get it". Packy

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DPCD it is sad that a man with your experience can't "get it". Your loss not ours. Packy

Guessing you use binocular vision. Not everyone is able/willing to do so.

On a takedown rifle an advantage of forward mounting the scope on the barrel is that it stays zeroed upon re-assembly. Plus with the scope mounted forward the rifle can be shouldered fast, aimed quickly and fired with no chance of getting struck by the scope under recoil. One less thing to worry about.

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Originally posted by packrattusnongratus:
DPCD it is sad that a man with your experience can't "get it". Your loss not ours. Packy

Guessing you use binocular vision. Not everyone is able/willing to do so.

Well in reality Jeff Cooper didn't invent the makeup of the scout rifle, just take a look at the Remington ad above. Plus there were truckloads of Winchester 94's with barrel mounted scopes on them. Most thought that forward scope mounting wasn't a better idea back then either but they had no choice. That was until 'ol Jeff popularized the idea with his scout rifles. Then suddenly it was the best idea ever!

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Most thought that forward scope mounting wasn't a better idea back then either but they had no choice. That was until 'ol Jeff popularized the idea with his scout rifles. Then suddenly it was the best idea ever!

Am not disagreeing. Don't see forward scopes as a "better idea". Just saying monocular vision makes them noticeably slower for target acquisition, unless gunfit is perfect. Binocular vision mitigates this.

There are other reasons not to like the concept, such as balance/MOI. Weight between the hands makes for easier carrying and, IMO, faster mounting. A Win 94 carbine has about as perfect balance as I can imagine. With a forward scope, fully loaded, it's a pig on a shovel.