For under $1K what rifle has a good action and is reliable?
I have many Remington rifles but want to try something different and would choose a deer caliber according to what is available for that make and model.

I desire Something in a bolt rifle:

Are Savage rifle’s good and what models?
Mauser?
So on…..

Please give your imput, thanks.

Vg

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Originally posted by vinnyg:
For under $1K what rifle has a good action and is reliable?
Please give your imput, thanks.
Vg

First - go for a used gun.
Why? - More for less..
Get a WinM70 in .308 Win or a shortaction Rem 700.
Use the rest of the money on a good scope.
The scope should cost at least as mutch as the gun. There is better accuracy in an ok rifle with a good scope than a good rifle with a cheap scope.

Here's a couple on my list:

Kimber 84 Classic
FN Patrol XP (check CDNN)
A-Bolt II (gorgeous wood, octagon barrel)

Not bolts, but darn cool:
Browning 1885
Ruger No. 1

I've got to echo the good glass statement above. Think Zeiss, Swarovski, high end Leupold or Burris...

James

One should not overlook the Weatherby Vangaard (Howa) in this category.....excellent shooting and functioning at a very reasonable price!

But a used M-70 or other rifle is also a superb idea.....there are several used rifles here for well under $500 and worth every dime!

You couldn't go wrong with a CZ 550 American in 6.5 Swede.

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Originally posted by Burlington Rd:
You couldn't go wrong with a CZ 550 American in 6.5 Swede.

Good advise but a Stevens Mod 200 in .270 ain't all bad either. Load it up or down depending on your pleasure and a little trigger tuning and you have a nice light weight, accurate hunting rifle capable of taking down anything in the lower 48, plus. Less than $500.00 with scope.
It, However, is not for the hunter sophistcate. roger

Since you mention Mausers, you may also consider a Ruger M77mk2. I have two. Ruger seems to have addressed accuracy issues, and the newest one even came with a good trigger. Totally dead nuts reliable.

They have some thing going for them... controlled round feed, great big extractor, great scope mounts (included!), three position safety that physically and visually blocks the striker.

I'm not a huge fan of the Hawkeye models... don't care for the bluing or the new forearm. But the triggers are pretty good.

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Originally posted by Burlington Rd:
You couldn't go wrong with a CZ 550 American in 6.5 Swede.

I have no idea if this would be the best choice but CZ's shoot and this would be the most interesting in the group mentioned so far.

Terry

My CZ in 6.5 is fast becoming a favorite. have Remingtons, Rugers, Mausers, and a few others to choose from, but the CZ is going out more and more. Can't really comment on Savage.

Tikka
Weatherby MKV
Browning Abolt

just to name a few..

Heck of a lot of good rifles for under a grand ! mabye hang on to your pennies till the new model 70s are out.
But the Rugers kimbers CZs A nicly built custom , as a matter of fact, I have a couple nice custom mausers I would sell for well under a grand. PM if you are interested in a 25,06 or a 6.5X27 both with dies & brass...tj3006

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hang on to your pennies till the new model 70s are out.

Yup.....retail of $999 ought to actually sell for about $800 net of sales tax and shipping!

Look for a good used rifle. I 'd start with:

Sako
Kimber
Winchester M70 Classic
Mauser
Tikka
et al

vinnyg,

I hunt in the northeast as well and I have a battery of pre 64 M70's along with 99's in .358 etc etc.

Now that I am older and not as agile I have got some Kimbers. I have 84M's in the Montana and Classic along with a WSM in a Montana.

I prefer the control round feed and three position safeties of the rifles I have over the Rem. I started with.

The thing to do right now is to cruise the gunshops and handle as many rifles as you can and get the one that appeals to you.

Cabela's in East Hartford, CT may be a ride but its quite a store.

OK,
I traveled to four local gun stores yesterday and did something I haven’t in a long time.
I handled and inspected many of today’s different NEW rifles.

I looked at how the bolts were made and locked up along with the safety and action in general. This is what I felt without shooting them, but no offence to any:

Kimber nice but more $ than I want to spend.
Weatherby vanguard, I didn’t like as much as the Mark V
So:
Weatherby vanguard I was not impressed over a Rem M700
Browning A bolt I was not impressed over a Rem M700.
Savage? 14, 11, 111, No, I didn’t care for the bolts at all.

The Model 70…..Years ago my friend purchased one in a 270 and we could never get the rifle to shoot well so he traded it in for a 700 BDL.
Looking back I don’t think that there was anything wrong with the rifle but rather the installation of the base - rings & or maybe the scope.
“Personally - I alone only mount my own scopesâ€

I like the M70 above all the listed above but you can make a good argument for the Mark V.

But, let me tell you what rifle impressed me the most and for the money I’m about won over.
First, it is based on the mauser action and I really like the bolt and safety.
Second, when I took it to my shoulder I never felt a more comfortable rifle and it was like perfectly balanced and square.
Did you guess? Yes the CZ550 and it was 6 hundred and change.

I’m thinking Remington will lose me to one….but I might wait to see the new M70’s because they are nice (Solid) too.
So for me so far until I see other makes,
It’s Winchester Model 70 vs. CZ550

Thanks Guys, good shooting to ya.
Vg

Savage and Stevens.

It's a "no brainer", go for the CZ!!

Look for a vintage commercial FN Mauser, a factory sporter or an HVA, Higgins, Sako, Marlin, H&R or any of the others who used FN actions in the 50s. You'll be well below your budget and still have a world class rifle.

If you want CRF, I think the CZ must be your winner, but do yourself a favor, and handle a hunter model in a Sako M-75 if you cam, should be able to get one under a grand. The newer design 85 will run a bit more, but features a CRF--of sorts!

Good luck--let us know what you land on.

I had a CZ 550 FS in 7x64. I did not like the minimum heighth of the scope mounts (used warne). Too high. They need to do something about the bolt handle. It had a plastic follower that I finally got replaced with a metal one. It also had the bad c-clip. Also I really didn't like the trigger. I have a Browning FN mauser 30-06, and the trigger on that rifle was much better. Actuall the trigger on my new hawkeye is better.

I had found a real deal on 20 boxes of Remington 7x64, and 5 boxes of federal 7x64 ammo and I reasoned that god wanted me to have a rifle in that caliber .

It also didn't shoot so hot. However it was a full stock, and full stocks do have problems sometimes with accuracy. I messed with it for quite a while, and shot up most of the ammo. Finally got rid of it.

I do like a low mounted scope.

I would put $100 with it and get a Kimber Select Grade in 7-08 or 308.I love mine and think it's a lot of gun for the money.

Lots of good guns for under $1000. You can buy an Accutrigger-equipped Savage complete with Deadnutz mount and decent glass for under $1000, it'll be plenty accurate and reliable. Same with the Weatherby Vanguard. Not quite the same level of spit-and-polish of a Mark V, but you can do one with scope mounted for the same cost of a new Mark V. The new ones even have adjustable triggers. Aside from those 2 I'd grab a 700 myself.

If you're looking at $1000 for just the gun, there is a shitload of options to look into. I would just go to the store and ask to see one of everything! What do new Weatherby Fibermarks cost? That would be my choice in that price range. Or a Sako if they're cheap enough.

1+ to fla3006 ... I'd look for a Higgins FN Mauser rifle in .270 or 30-06. Last one's I've bought have been between $300 and $400 in great shape.

I prefer these rifles to CZs and Rugers.

They are commercial actions made by FN in Belgium. They have a left side flag safety. You lift you thumb and bring down the safety to disengage it. Are drilled and tapped for scope mounts.

Last .270 rifle I bought was already in a Hogue synthetic stock. I swapped that pretty decent stock for a cheap Fajen's synthetic (so I could use the Hogue on a heavier caliber Mauser). The resulting rifle shot three rounds into a ragged hole at 100 yards.

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Originally posted by David Walther:

First - go for a used gun.

Vinnyg - This quote above is the very first line of the very first reply to your question in this thread. It has been repeated by many other respondents in their own words and is about the best advice you can get, I think.

Now, based on my own years of buying used guns:

Save up the cash for the gun. Forget about buying on plastic or with a cheque (if those thoughts entered your mind). They only diminish your ability to deal with some prospective sellers. Carry the cash with you all the time in a secure, separate place so you don't spend it on something else.

Keep your eyes and your ears open. In the meantime, keep reading everything you can lay your hands on about rifles and their cartridges/uses. (It will give you a useful personal pool of knowlege for later.)

Then, when you see a piece which might be a prospective good answer to your need, look it over carefully. Don't bad mouth it, regrdless what you think. (After all, if you and the seller can't agree on this one, he might have something else even better he will offer when he hears why you two can't make a deal on this one.)

Assuming the seller is asking more than you want to pay, decide whether you would be interested in the gun at all, and what YOU think would be a fair price, everything considered. Make an offer at that price or very slightly below. If the offer is rejected, give the owner a brief, honest, explanation of why that is its worth to you, including any deficiencies in its usefullness or condition.

If the potential seller does not want to take the deal or offer some other even better gun for your purposes, say, "Well, thanks very much anyway..." and walk away. You will always come across others just as desirable. Maybe not exactly the same, but still as desirable.


If you get very, very close to agreement and you really want the gun, give the seller his "win" and buy it.

If you don't have the money with you, and don't buy it when you first decide you want it, it will be gone the next time you try to follow up on it. True, something else just as nice will come along, but if you have what you want in your hands at a price you are willing to pay and have with you, don't waste your time trying to get a better deal somewhere else some other time.

Buy it and go shooting. After all your sport is shooting, not haggling (right?)

Good luck, and best wishes,

AC

The new Savage rifles have good triggers, however, the extractor is the greatest weakness of the design. I have one in .223 that is back to the factory repair because of the extractor. It was erratic and then completely broke. Sometime the empties would extract and kick out and part of the time just lay there. Its got this little ball under the slide. In my experience its worse than the Rem 700 extractor, which is one of the weakest. If I wanted a reliable extractor, it would not be a Savage. Also, mine is the stainless steel version with the black plastic stock. The stock doesn't have enough material in the forearm to keep it from flexing, which is not good.

Thats my savage experience so far.