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I've had a 15" heavy Encore pistol barrel in .284 Winchester for awhile and really like the caliber so I'm condidering getting a bolt rifle in the round. By just surfing the auction sites I can't seem to locate one new or used......are any of the major rifle mfgs. still chambering bolt rifles for the .284 ? Ike | ||
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The Ruger M77 and Browning Safari (rare) were chambered in .284. Several other rifles were/are offered in semi-custom guns. But, if you really want a bolt .284, just assume that you'll need to build one from scratch. Most people will tell you that you need a long action to get the most out of the .284. But if you use a long action, then what's the point of using the .284 case? You could put a .280 Remington on the same action for less trouble and money and have the same ballistics. So, in my opinion, there is little use in building a .284 unless you want to use a short (medium) action. The Browning was built on the L579 Sako and the Ruger on their short action. "Short" actions like the current Savage and Win M70 have about 3" inches available in the magazine, which is ample for the .284. | |||
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I tried to fit a 284 into a Kimber 84M but that magazine will not work or take rounds longer than 2.81". I bought some brass and made up some empty rounds with the 140 BT and the bullet seats so deep in the case at 2.81" that you can see a space at the neck as the ogive sits below the case mouth. The neck on a 284 is quite a ways ahead of say a 7mm-08 and there is little differance between them performance wise at that length. As Stonecreek says a longer action would work well with the 284. Keep the money in reserve and if a 284 comes past you at a good price you will be ready. As for myself I consider the rifle first as to me cartridges overlap. Join the NRA | |||
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I'm sure that what you say is true. However, the Browning L579 had a magazine no longer than your K84, and it worked fine with the FACTORY loads. The .284 was designed to fit into a short action. Conventional cup-and-core bullets are much shorter than the Nosler Ballistic Tips, thus a conventional 150 grain 7mm can be seated to feed in such a short magazine. Note that the .284's bread-and-butter bullet weight was intended to be a 125 in order to closely mimic the velocity of the 130/.270, which the .284 was conceived of as a short action (or lever and auto) equivalent. I think you'll find no problem in seating a 140 grain conventional flat base spitzer to a LOA of less than 2.8 inches in a .284. In fact, as memory serves, it was a 140 Sierra that I used to kill a whitetail on the one hunting trip that I took a Browning Safari .284 that I briefly owned (when a guy offers you Ruger 77's in .458, 7x57, and .308 Mannlicher, and a S & W 39 as an even swap, it's hard to hang on to even a Browning Safari.) | |||
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All true Stonecreek and so does the 140 BT seat below the case mouth! It looked wrong because it is wrong, for that bullet, and I wanted to practice with 140 BT's and hunt with Accubonds. The factory 140 gr load is a lot shorter than 2.8" and it looks weird. I would have had to spend $$$ and go thru the usual gunsmith wait for a 284 in a 2.8" box only to have to use short bullets. Join the NRA | |||
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There were a few Abolt browning's made-seen one-medallion-rare and usually high dollar Also, Winchester made a limited run with DBM, detach mag, but again, likely sitting in collections as well. Nice round and I have even heard of some using it for competitive use, there may be some quality brass like Lapua/Norma, I think. I agree, for an slight increase in bolt length and you can likely have a 5 round mag vs 3, I might just go with 280. I have used a 7/08 a lot in past, 140's at 2900-3000 are no problem depending on bbl length using 4064 or Varget. It will do a LOT of good hunting for most normal ranges if you want a 7mm round in a handy rifle. | |||
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In 1965 I had a Browning Safari in .284 Win - traded it staight across to a guy in Veneta, Oregon for an older but as-new Pre-'64 Model 70 in .300 H&H. Still think I got the better of THAT deal. Even a blind pig finds a truffle now and then.... My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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I appreciate all the input fellas. The OAL on my Encore ammo is 3.178" and that is with a Hornady # 28202 139gr SST seated darn near even or just a freckle above the neck shoulder junction so a 2.800 or so short action magazine box would definitely have the base of the bullet well past the shoulder......I personally would rather have the base of the bullet where it is now or maybe a tad higher in the neck if need be but no lower. By the way, I'm loading 56.5grs of RL-22 with a CCI 250 mag primer under the SST's and am getting "extremely" good accuracy out the to max distance I have available which is 200 yds. Although I'd really like to have a bolt gun in .284 I'm not wanting to spend big $$$ to have one custom built right now......maybe, just maybe one will make itself available at a reasonable price down the road. Ike | |||
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I think ultra light arms is still chambering rifles in .284, I thought browning was too. Walk softly and carry a big bore! | |||
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You cold have one built on a military mauser withot spending to much, I mean it would be hard to do it very nicly for under a grand but it would probably take a year or so. so why not start buying parts, Also winchester custom shop makes them, But they ain;t cheap !!!...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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Even in a short 2.8" action you will still have more case capacity than a 7mm-08. Maybe not enough to match the 280 rem but close. It's still a good bang for the buck! | |||
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There are two A-Bolts listed on Guns America right now. One is a "like new" Hunter for $1195. The other is an N.I.B. Medallion for $1695. I'd like to have one, too. But not quite that badly. Founder....the OTPG | |||
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I have one in a Browning Abolt Medallion. Keep looking; they are out there. "Big ears doesn't make you a good listener, but big feet will tell on you." - Mr. Bill Clinton | |||
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