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Originally posted by Cal Sibley:
CZ makes good, accurate rifles. When known as Brno their rifles were terrific. I'd love to get one in 7x57. I already have a 6.5x55. In North America we are often prone to overlook metric calibers. I feel that's a big mistake. These things are powerful enough to take about anything we can put up against it. I would use the 8x57 on anything this side of Africa. All we're doing is re-inventing the wheel. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal

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In North America we overlook metric calibers because they are a pain in the ass to find, plus we have the 25-06 Remington, 260 Remington, 270 Winchester, 308 Winchester, and 30-06 Springfield.

They make the Mauser-based calibers unecessary.

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In North America we overlook metric calibers because they are a pain in the ass to find, plus we have the 25-06 Remington, 260 Remington, 270 Winchester, 308 Winchester, and 30-06 Springfield.

They make the Mauser-based calibers unecessary.

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Uhhh, check the lineage of those cartridges you listed as making the "Mauser based cartridges unnecessary. They are all based of the Mauser case. Yes it's true. Sean

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Originally posted by Orion 1:
I was referring to the cartridges originally concieved for Mauser rifles, i.e. the 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57.

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The 8x57 was not "originally conceived" for a Mauser rifle, and the 6,5x55 only by 50% .

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Originally posted by Orion 1:
I was referring to the cartridges originally concieved for Mauser rifles, i.e. the 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57.

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The 8x57 was not "originally conceived" for a Mauser rifle, and the 6,5x55 only by 50% .

Carcano

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Originally posted by carcano91:

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Originally posted by Orion 1:
I was referring to the cartridges originally concieved for Mauser rifles, i.e. the 6.5X55, 7X57, and 8X57.

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The 8x57 was not "originally conceived" for a Mauser rifle, and the 6,5x55 only by 50% .

Carcano

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I can't remember the last time you added anything useful to a discussion.

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Originally posted by 1894:
[Those redundant cartridges dragged US (and European) military small arms cartridges kicking and screaming from 30-40Krag and 30-30WCF into the 20th century. If they are such a pain in the ass to find how come 7x57 and 9.3x62 seem to be so popular on these boards.

I'll warrant that finding 307 winchester, 358 winchester, 22 jet and a whole host of other US calibres will be harder to find in your local gunshop than 7x57, 6.5x55, 8x57 all of which are made by Federal, Remington and Winchester etc

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Originally posted by 1894:
I'm not keen on some aspects of UK fire arms law but it does have the effect of ensuring that a largely suitable calibre is used. 1750ftlbs and 2,400fps in Scotland means that rifles used are less likely to wound through mis estimation of range on the large featureless hills. Remember we're not necessarily talking experts but the sort of person who comes once a year to Scotland to shoot a stag and if the law steers them towards a 308 instead of a 30-30 then that's no bad thing IMHO because one cannot allways guarentee 'in skilled hands'

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Originally posted by 1894:
Orion1

You may not be interested but it is not irrelevant! The Mauser line of cartridges did for modern centrefire loadings what the Model T did for cars - it gave birth to them as we know them. They may now be redundant in your eyes but seeing as Federal, Winchester, Remington and Hornady still load for them and the dies are on the off the shelf category from Reading and RCBS, others obviously don't think so.

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