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Yes, you are correct about the accuracy. I have mine zero'ed at 500 yards, and can hit steel pie plates at 1100 yards with minimal adjustments for wind and elevation. Packing it in the mountains gets a little old though. | |||
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I know it is not a "typical" style cartridge, but I still enjoy money pits such as the .338 "Yellow Bastard" as made by Vigilance Rifles on a single-shot chassis. They claim an astounding 3850 fps with a 250 grain bullet. And only 11 MOA + at 100 yards for a 1000 yard zero. Pretty impressive, but I am sure barrel life is non-existent.I would really like to see some performance evaluations from someone shooting it with a good VLD Solid 300 gr or better. -Private Contractor- Retired Private Security Contractor Executive Protection PMC WWPS Instructor and Collector of Pokey and Sharp Things USTC | |||
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yeah, I'd support the 338 RUM...on a savage action and then have a muzzle break set up on it like they are putting on the Lapua... when Savage and Win stopped their runs on them.. around town a couple of shops had both rifles, bought elsewhere from sources dumping them.. there was 30 to 40 Rifles in two shops...all chambered in 300 and 338 Ultra Mag...all going for $300 a piece... I had no need for one tho.. as my 338/06 and a pair of 338 Mags more than cover my needs for a 338... a friend picked up one of the 338 Ultras and then had it chambered out to a 338/300 Ultra, since the 300 was a longer case than the 338 version... | |||
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Is there a .338 mag that's easy on barrels?? I've been told to expect 1000 rounds out of the win mag, and as few as 500 out of the ultra mag and lapua versions. None of these strike me as "easy" on barrel especially given the intended use as aforementioned. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the 270 won't do it the .338 will, if the 338 won't I can't afford the hunt! | |||
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I would divide that by 10.A hundred rds of 300wm and 50 rds of ultra is what I got out of all my 300`s.IMO,unlike military cartridges like the 308,these where not designed for prolonged use. | |||
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I have the 340 bee and 338 RUM and like them both. I get a little more from the RUM from a hunting perspective. On the barrels if you are hunting you should never wear it out. Hs precision 300 RUM has over 500 rounds through it and and it is as deadly accurate as it was the first shot. I don't have any bench rest experience but shooting out the barrels on hunting guns is hard to do in my opinion.I get 3000 fps with 240 nort fork in the 338 RUM and thats all I need. | |||
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I'm guessing your are using wooden barrels. Perhaps you should try steel. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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lots of good info and advice here. so far the .338 Lapua or the .338 Norma seems like two of the best choices for what i want. the .338 seems like such a good caliber i wouldn't doubt it if i ended up getting 2 or 3 different cartridges in this caliber. | |||
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None of them would be bad choices. My 338-378 Wby has about 500 rounds through it and it still shoots sub moa (even with factory ammo). That said, I am a bit biased towards it but it does shoot well but in reality it has more power then is really necessary for North American hunting in a 338 caliber. Other then it's really long range capability it is a riot to shoot. Enjoy whichever you decide on as they are all a different breed no matter what. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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My choice is the 338-378 Weatherby, my rifle was built prob 25 yrs ago and with an old Burris 3-9 it shoots sub 3" groups at 400 meters. It's built on an old Bauska BBK action, Douglas barrel, and I think MPI stock and gentry brake, it was nicknamed Green Monster because it was never finished,250's at over 3200fps. | |||
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When searching my current build I put a lot of thought into this. If price were no option, I would choose the 338 Excalibur. However, since I live in the real world I chose 338 Edge. "though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." ---Thomas Jefferson | |||
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338 Edge is 108.0 grains water 338 Lapua is 111.8 grains water, using the same system, so there is no edge for Edge. 338 Lapua has great Lapua brass available. Both will probably require a custom barrel on the platform of choice, unless one wants a TAC platform or perhaps the CZ custom, both of which offer 338 Lapua. Make sure your money is well spent, since there are some great 338WinMags out there off the shelf. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I have no problem hitting this at 800 yds with my 338 RUM. This was with the new Nosler 300 gr AB loaded to a MV of 2742 fps.  JD338 | |||
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i think i've finally settled on 4 cartridge considerations once and for all and that is: 1. .338 Lapua 2. .338/378Wby 3. .338RUM 4. .338 Norma the best i can figure is those are my 4 favorites in order from most favorite to least. pretty sure i will get something in .338 Lapua and down the road i hope to get a rifle in at least one of the other 3 choices. thanks. | |||
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.338 Imperial/Edge  " If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countryman " Samuel Adams, 1772 | |||
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anyone know anything about the .338 SnipeTac? i've done some reading on it today and it has some amazing ballistics, maybe the most powerful .338 i know of. i'm thinking it would be very hard on barrels though and may wear them out too fast. | |||
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The 338 snipetac is a modified 408 cheytac case and will drive 300gr bullets over 3300fps out of a 30 inch or longer barrel. The barrel life will not be that great. I would look at the 375 Viersco magnum that uses a modified 408 cheytac case but is a 375 caliber and will give you more range and much better barrel life. Here is a link to Dave Viers site. http://www.viersco.com I would look at a 338 rum if you wanted a long range 338 it will run right with the 338 lapua and cost much less. I looked at 338 Lapua brass the other day and it was 296.99 USD for 100 cases a 338 rum would be 100 USD for 100 cases. The lapua at 2.96 USD a case you could step to a 338 Snipetac, 375 VM or 408 Cheytac for not much more. The 338 rum is very accurate and is probably the lowest ES and SD magnum I have ever seen. I have 4 or 5 different loads with different bullets weights running in the low single digits about what my 6mmbr does. Here are two targets at 954 yards off the bipod with a rear bag and with my 338 rum. The 300 Berger’s are the smaller of the two groups and the other is the 300 Sierra Matchkings. I am shooting both loads right around 2800fps with a #4 Lilja 27 inch finish barrel.   | |||
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I've been looking at the Black Diamond Rifles website which i think is the name of Dave Viers company and i'd definately consider getting them to build a .338 tactical rifle for me. also considering H-S Precision and Mac's Gunworks for a .338 build. the .338 Lapua, .338-378Wby, .338RUM and .338 Norma are still my favorite choices in .338 cartridges for what i want. i think the .338 SnipeTac has awesome ballistics though. | |||
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338LM barrel life is 3-4k in SS and the Sako hammered barrels get 4-5k in military service before the 250gr Lapua FMJs won't go inside an inch. Jimmy Sloan straightened the body of the LM and increased the neck angle by half a degree to achieve nearly the same ballistics as the LM with a few percent less powder. RUM brass is reportedly shit. I'd go with the 338LM AI. 300@2950 easily. | |||
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If I had a Ruger action to rebarrel, I'd have a 338 Norma magnum put on. the Norma is the same capacity as the RUM, so same ballistics as long as the brass is good, and Norma brass has a better rep than RUM brass. If I had a CZ action to rebarrel, then I'd go with 388 Lapua. The Lapua has a few grains advantage in capacity, but nothing worth getting worked up over. If I wanted an inexpensive factory hunting rifle, then I'd go with the 338 Win Mag. It already does about anything one needs for hunting. The Lapua or Norma is a lot of work and money for a 2% hunting advantage, where a Win Mag might have to ethically pass up a shot. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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I have hunted with a .340 Wby for many years, taking many Elk, Deer and a gigantic Alaskan Yukon Moose. It is fine as frog hair and I have never had a complaint. It shoots one holers with 225 and 240 grain North Forks and 225 gain Swift A-Frames and Barnes XLC's. Longest shot 299 yards in Colorado on a nice Bull on Thornbourgh mountain. It sports a 4 X 16 Burris Signature that has been very dependable in all weather. I got a chance to get a .338 Lapua at a bargain from a buddy who was afraid of it and having several grandsons who could grow into the rifle, it made since to purchase it. It is truly a shooter as well and having all the .338 bullets for the .340, was a perfect addition to my vault. I have taken Elk and many Deer with it as has one grandson and son. With a 4.5 X 14 Ziess Conquest it is a pleasure to shoot and also a one holer when the shooter does their part. Longest shot a 350 yarder with a 225 grain North Fork at 3100 fps. The rifle will shoot much farther, but this hunter will always try to get closer. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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