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I have a really nice F. Kettner stalking rifle in 9.3x72. It shoots S&B factory ammo quite accurately. Interpolating the factory specs for my longer barrel, I'd guess that I get 2000 f.p.s. in the 26" barrel with the 193 grain soft point.

I'd also guess that the closest "American" cartridge is the .38/55? It, of course, is great for "close" whitetails, black bear and perhaps even elk with shots well chosen to avoid big bones. Does the 9.3x72 compare as I hope it does?

Lastly, has anyone shot anything with the S&B load. I think lots of Europeans use it for boar, and if the S&B load passes through the shield on a big pigs shoulder, I'd think it'd do fine for 500 lb. American animals, on down???? Any comments from experience.


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I think the round is equal to a 35rem. shot out of a carbine barrel.I asked about mine one time,and that is what someone told me.I like them and wishthere was more ammo availiable,tug makes bullets for them and dwm i think.Lots of old german drillings are chambered for the 9.3x72R.Lots of fun to shoot!Good Luck!
 
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Hi Judge, I've got a drilling in this caliber passed down from my grandfather. He used it in Canada back in the 20's and 30's when he used to trap up there. I think you're correct when equating it to a 38-55, my dad said in the 50's they couldn't get 9.3 ammo so actually shot 38-55's in it, never had a problem with them he claims but doesn't sound too smart to me. In my time it's shot small black bear and whitetail using the old RWS load. I haven't tried the S&B load in mine but their 7x57 load is a very good round.


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Thanks:

I checked the sectional density (.206) and energy (1650 ft. lbs.). The former is greater than a 200 grain bullet in a .35 Remington and the latter, the same as a 240 grain bullet in a .44 Rem. Mag... so...

I guess the real question is the bullet as loaded. I've killed enough bears with a traditional bow to know that you have to be patient and avoid any shot that may hit the shoulder, so I'll make sure that a rib is the biggest bone I hit (unless its the far side shoulder blade.. and if I hit that, the questions will be moot of course! Roll Eyes ).

Anyone shot anything with the S&B load above referenced?
 
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I have a really nice F. Kettner stalking rifle in 9.3x72. It shoots S&B factory ammo quite accurately. Interpolating the factory specs for my longer barrel, I'd guess that I get 2000 f.p.s. in the 26" barrel with the 193 grain soft point.

I'd also guess that the closest "American" cartridge is the .38/55? It, of course, is great for "close" whitetails, black bear and perhaps even elk with shots well chosen to avoid big bones. Does the 9.3x72 compare as I hope it does?

Lastly, has anyone shot anything with the S&B load. I think lots of Europeans use it for boar, and if the S&B load passes through the shield on a big pigs shoulder, I'd think it'd do fine for 500 lb. American animals, on down???? Any comments from experience.


You are correct. The nearest round of American origin is indeed the .38/55! You can expect the 9.3X72 to perform about the same on similar sized animals.

However, I would NOT consider them interchangeable, since to groove diameter of the 9.3 is .366", and .38/55 bullet diameters can range from .375" up to .378"-.379"!


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A drilling in 9.3x72 R/16 gauge was the traditional gun of choice for German forestry wardens over decades. They did kill thousands of red stag and wild boar but then, they did know where to aim and how to shoot.

Today, the factory rounds are no longer legal for major game because at 100 m they are under 2000 Joule kinetic energy. You can, if the gun is strurdy enough, load it a little hotter to reach that limit.

As stated here, if you can kill an animal with a bow, the old 9.3x72 which was designed as a blackpowder cartridge, by the way, sure will do the job. A stalking rifle in this caliber would be for sure a very nice gun.
 
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