Hellow all, new here and have a few ???'s

I would like to build a 358 winchester on a remington SA but it looks like I can Buy a new Hawkeye for cheaper? I don't have a spare action laying around so I would have to buy one. The price of used remingtons up here in AK tells me it might be smarter(cheaper) to get a new gun? I could sell off the new take off barrel and stock and maybe get a little money back. I can get a NIB rem 700 classic in 300 Savage for $405 and I think thats a pretty good deal. What could I sell the stock and barrel for? How much would a new barrel run me installed? I've never had a rifle built for me before, what are some of the hidden costs if any?

I would like to drop it in a take-off rem lvsf stock, as these stocks fit me very well. Will the lvsf stock hold up to the 358's recoil? I know they are already opened up to a #4 contour so minus the bdl-adl conversion it should be an easey swap. The primary use for this rifle will be Black Bear baitting and the occasional Moose hunt in a certian swamp that is chocked with black spruce tree's. I will mount a 1.75x6 VXIII on it in some light weight rings and finish it off at 20-22's. What would my over all weight be for a setup like this? What do you boy's think I could get into a setup like this for without the scope and rings?

Thanks for your help! And doing a search for "358 winchester" has kept me infront of the computer on this site for about the last 3 days!

Thanks again, Jake

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Originally posted by ultralight: I can get a NIB rem 700 classic in 300 Savage for $405 and I think thats a pretty good deal. What could I sell the stock and barrel for?

just out curiosity, is there a good reason you want to screw up such a lovely rifle/cartridge?

wouldnt it much easier to use a .308win as a starting point.

Steffen-9.3

I believe they have the same bolt face... so I really don't see the difference. But I agree about butchering a nice classic. I would feel a lil' guilty! However that is the one that is on sale

Jake

I think I'd personally just buy the stainless/synthetic Ruger as its one tough rifle! I'd then save my pennies and keep on the look-out for a 'beater' Rem700 that could be used later on for a custom build if I was still in love with a 358Win ... and you will be!
Cheers...
Con

Also does anybody have any idea what the muzzle dia. of the hawkeye is in 358? and what is the length of pull on the new hawkeye's?

Thanks, Jake

Jake:

Just measured my .358 Hawkeye All-Weather. Muzzle diameter mikes 0.650"; length of pull looks to be about 13.5". Also, trigger pull is a crisp 4.25 lbs, and weight with a 2-7 Leopold Rifleman is about 8 lb.

Cheers, Al

Don"t bother with rebarreling. I've had several .308's REBORED to .358 Win. usually less than a 150 # and all shot great.Then do what ever with the stock.

You will love the .358 at least I do.

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Originally posted by ClassicAl:
Jake:

Just measured my .358 Hawkeye All-Weather. Muzzle diameter mikes 0.650"; length of pull looks to be about 13.5". Also, trigger pull is a crisp 4.25 lbs, and weight with a 2-7 Leopold Rifleman is about 8 lb.

Cheers, Al

ClassicAL,

Thanks for the info! I really appreciate it.

hard luck,

I didn't even think about a rebore. I wonder how much metal would be left on that little remington classic in 300 savage after the rebore? Also would there be enough metal in the chamber to make it a 358 aswell? Sorry if these are dumb questions, as I know very little about this stuff.

Thanks Guys, Jake

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Originally posted by ClassicAl:

ClassicAL,

Thanks for the info! I really appreciate it.

hard luck,

I didn't even think about a rebore. I wonder how much metal would be left on that little remington classic in 300 savage after the rebore? Also would there be enough metal in the chamber to make it a 358 aswell? Sorry if these are dumb questions, as I know very little about this stuff.

Thanks Guys, Jake

Please don't buy that .300 Savage just to rebore it. I know where you can get a ADL in .308 for aroung $405 even by the time you get done paying for FFL transfer fees.

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Please don't buy that .300 Savage just to rebore it. I know where you can get a ADL in .308 for aroung $405 even by the time you get done paying for FFL transfer fees.

I'll second that though about not reboring the 700 Classic .300 Sav. to .358. They only made them for one year so they have attained some collector status.
Anyway, doesn't Ruger make the Hawkeye in .358? Let's keep it simple. get the hawkeye. if you don't like the stock, change it. I have two tang safety Ruger M77's in .358 Win., one strictly as it came from the factory and the other in a McMillan synthetic stock for crappy weather. One thing you can say for Ruger's guns, they are hell for stout and they are made in America.
Paul B.

The problem with the hawkeye is it's bbl is too short 16-18 inches. My old blr has a 20 and I think for best performance with the .358 you need 22" I've expermented with this a lot.
This is what I'm going to do . I"m going to buy an old beater Remington 700 or Rugur in .243 or .308 and send it off to rebore to .358 I've done this before with a Winchester 88. Basicly you have a new bbl. and you can do whater with the stock. Only 150.00 for the rebore. And you will have a rifle you can almost hunt anything with.or you can buy a .358 bbl and have some one put it on. Misway usa used to sell .358 bbls for 90.00

Be sure to get the 1/12 twist. You can then usually shoot any .358 bullet made. Packy

hard luck,
The Hawkeye has a 22" barrel ... your probably thinking the Frontier model.
Cheers...
Con

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Originally posted by Con:
hard luck,
The Hawkeye has a 22" barrel ... your probably thinking the Frontier model.
Cheers...
Con

Probably, that's the BBL length on my Frontier in 358...

Hey con, thanks I was thinking of the scout. Didn"t know the hawkeye had a 22" might buy one my self if I ever get my tax stimulus check.