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The budget gods have some allowed me some cash for a new 9.3x62. I have ~1.5k to spend. The only thing I want for sure is a synthetic stock. It seems hard to get a factory stainless barrel in 9.3x62, so I figured I would be coating it in something. I don't mind if it has open sites or not. My options so far are the 20" Sako Black Bear carbine, the 20" CZ-550 Carbine with synthetic stock (not the FS), and a new 22" barrel on a donor Remington 700 30/06 currently in a HS Precision stock. The only other thing that comes to mind perhaps picking up a beaten up CZ-550 medium action, rebarreling it, and putting it into a B&C Medalist stock. Less money on the rifle means a new scope. More cash on the rifle means an existing Leupold VX-3 in 2.5-8x with a medium Duplex on it. Any thoughts? | ||
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Another option, find a rifle in an -06 caliber and have it rebored. ____________________________ If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ... 2018 Zimbabwe - Tuskless w/ Nengasha Safaris 2011 Mozambique - Buffalo w/ Mashambanzou Safaris | |||
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Was pondering just that this morning.. I,ve got a couple 9.3s, both CZ, a full stock with nice wood and an American with a B&C.. Every once in a while, start thinking about putting a fiberglass stock on the mannlicher. Should be around 7 lbs with iron sights, maybe put a fiber front and ghost rear on it, be a handy little thumper for here in SE Alaska. Which usually gets me thinking about tracking down a used Kimber Montana in 06, send it off to rebore by Jes, turn it into a sub seven pound 9.3x62.. Which will kick a wee bit.. If you were to track down a Winchester Ultimate Shadow in stainless, probably run 6-7-800 bucks, rebore probably another 300-ish. I,m guessing around 8 1/2 lbs scoped. If you track down a CZ American, bout 9 lbs scoped, synthetic carbine, maybe ascoshe lighter.. | |||
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Ruger Hawkeye rebore/rebarrel. Mines an all stainless 70 with 21" barrel necg sights Cerekoted. Great little cartridge I am back from a long Hiatus... or whatever. Take care. smallfry | |||
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I've kicked around the idea of a 9.3 also. Other then reboring something I like the looks of the CZ 550 carbine. It solves a lot of problems for me as a great little black bear rifle. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Sako Black Bear Excellent irons Smooth action Fast handling Light weight Accurate (guaranteed) 5 round "unloseable" detachable mag High quality rings available | |||
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Why not just build one? Montana 1999 action, #4 contour Douglas barrel, and your choice of synthetic stock. The Montana action is crf and a tad heavy, which is just right for the 9.3. I've built 2 this way, one with an MPI stock and the other with a McMillan. They shoot lights out, and are tougher than nails. Customers happy. A good job is sometimes just a series of expertly fixed fark-ups. Let's see.... is it 20 years experience or is it 1 years experience 20 times? And I will have you know that I am not an old fart. I am a curmudgeon. A curmudgeon is an old fart with an extensive vocabulary and a really bad attitude. | |||
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I have 9.3x62 barrels, contoured to the 1930 Mauser pattern, and can make any other contour too; and can help you on a 9.3 project; PM me if you are interested. Sold about 15 of them here on AR to various members. | |||
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Get a Husqvarna 9.3x57 on a M98 action. Rechamber and open up the magazine to get 5 down. "Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" -- Ronald Reagan "Ignorance of The People gives strength to totalitarians." Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness. | |||
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http://www.simpsonltd.com/ buy a rifle here for 300 usd have Dpcd just above open it up from 9.3 x 57 to 9.3 x 62 now you have a brand new throat so it will shoot good for a few more bucks and for a few more bucks have him tune the trigger work the feed over and adjust the sights take the 1k you save and put it on a hunt in botswana for antelope the 96 models make a quite nice nice compact light rifle i did 5 of them for the girls and it worked great you will not be disappointed if you go that route Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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infact unless you are a mausar man and really smart just send him the 300 and let him pick the one he likes and knows he can clean up for you sit back and wait a short few weeks for your like new crf mauser to show up in the mail Am i on point here Dpcd Anyway it matters not, because my experience always has been that of---- a loss of snot and enamel on both sides of the 458 Win---- | |||
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Cool; thanks.. Yes, I can make a 9.3x62 on about anything. It all depends on how fancy you want it Basic to full custom. And Simpsons is just a few miles away from me. | |||
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If you don't mind push feed the Nosler M48 ticks your boxes and is quite slick. | |||
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NPD345 and I had dpcd barrel a couple of his barrels on Mauser actions. They came out very nice. As far as his craftsmanship, I can only say that he is doing my third rifle... | |||
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Personally I'd go for the CZ 550 Medium. I don't know if the 20"carbine with the synthetic stock is still available. I deeply regret sending my originally full stocked carbine down the road. Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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I have two 9.3x62's. A Husky and a CZ. I bought both at gun shows cheap from dealers glad to be rid of them. We here at AR are firearms connoisseurs and appreciate 9.3's but the unwashed masses have no idea what they are missing. I took the Husky to Africa, worked as advertised. Mark | |||
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I bought a Sako Black Bear. Synthetic stock, 20" barrel, light-weight, smooth bolt, reliable and shoots "bug-holes". Perfect for the thick, wet forested mountain hunting conditions I use it for. | |||
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I went the Husky route. Bought a 98 from Simpsons in 9.3x57 and had JES open it up to 9.3x62. Topped it off with a Luepold 2-7x in Warne detachable mounts. I'm very pleased with it and plan on taking it to Africa in 2018. It holds four down, very close to getting the 5th in. I have not messed with the rails and have been unable to find a floorplate to give me a touch more room. And all it needs is a touch. I hope that I don't hijack the thread but is there a simple way other than all new bottom metal? | |||
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I've got a CZ 550 American. It's everything I'd ever want in a 9.3x62. CZ doesn't make them any more, but you can find them used for under $1k every once in a while. You'd have to add a synthetic stock, but that's no big deal. If I were doing it today, then I'd seriously consider the CZ synthetic carbine. People I trust have mentioned feed problems with their Sako Black Bears, so there's that. Okie John "The 30-06 works. Period." --Finn Aagaard | |||
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There are a number of good choices in 9.3x62. Although I haven't carried the Sako Black Bear I tested one at SHOT and was impressed with it overall. The CZ's are good, but often need a little tweaking to smooth them up and so are the Ruger 9.3x62's. if you can find one though the Husqvarna rifles built on the FN actions are fantastic and priced right. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Thank you all for all of the replies and suggestions. I really appreciate the input. Here is what I came up with: I am leaving the Remington 700 alone. I am going to look for a used CZ 550 American, or if I can't find one of those, a CZ-550 Carbine. There seem to be a number of them around at the moment at the 1k mark. If for some reason I can't find a 550 American or dislike the 550 Carbine, then I will go with the Sako Black Bear. While we are on the 9,3x62, has anyone shot anything with the Nosler 250 grain .366" Accubond? What was it, and were you happy with the bullet performance? I'd like to try something flatter shooting than the .366" 286 grain Partition. | |||
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dpcd did the barrel and metal work for mine which he was kind enough to post pics of in the custom forum. looking forward to getting it back. | |||
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I love the caliber and have used it a good deal, but its not a high velocity round by any means and I have found the longer barrels to be needed for the caliber..I feel like a 24 or better yet a 26 inch barrel gives you the needed advantage for the caliber..I got 2525 FP with a 286 gr. Nosler partition bullet and 2390 FPS with a 320 gr. Woodleigh in my Lothar Walthar 26 inch gun.. I have used the Accubonds in other rifles and found them to be excellent in every case. It seemed to me it killed buffalo much better than the shorter tubes. Also I really like a 26 inch barrel for off hand and running shots. The 20 inch carbine I had was neat and I liked it but I would have been just as well off with a 358 Win. Just an option offered, and to each his own, but keep in mind that you can always cut a 26 inch tube off, but you can't stick an inch or two back on a 20 inch barrel. I never shot anything with the 9.3 Accubond but I shot a lot with the olf Olive drab green pointed Nosler Balistic Tips and that's is supposed to be the same bullet according to some on AR, other than the Accubond has a soldered core. I shot most of my stuff with the 286 Nosler partition and Woodleigh bullets..I shot a few head with the GS Customs 230 gr. and it was a killing machine with that combo..don't recall the load but it was cooking about 2700 FPS best I recall. I used it in Africa on several hunts and shot an elk at home with it..I liked the old balistip for deer and such as most 9.3 bullets are a tad hard IMO.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Sauer 100 - they cost about 700 in the US - can be had in either Synthetic or Wood. 22" barrel, 5 round top loadable, detachable mag, takes any Remington 700 bases/rings and an excellent trigger. And a very clever effective bedding system that most other rifles should aspire to. German Precision Engineering...... | |||
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The Mauser M12 comes in 9.3x62 as well. Sauer also offers the 101 at your price point. | |||
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Pick your favorite synthetic stocked factory gun in 30-06 type case and rebarrel with a 9.3 number 3 stainless cut to 23" Maybe an m70 extreme weather, an older winlite, a stainless ruger mk2, rem mountain rifle... | |||
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John Barsness did an article on the 250 gr Nosler about 10 years ago. He used it on Moose. Probably Grizzly but not sure. I think the first releases in this caliber were called Balistic tip but worked like the Accubond - the inner lead core had a narrower shank and the jacket was thicker. PM me your email & I'll send you some old articles and loads. I think I have sent them to more than 20 people here on AR. Good luck with your rifle. My personal choice would be to go for a Husky in M98 or find an older German rifle and tidy it up or put a new barrel on. Mine is a Simson M98 made before 1912 - octagon to round barrel with a full length rib. I put a new stock and got it rust blued. Scope ring with 2-7X Leupold and it shoots very well. Carries well too.
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Keep in mind the 9.3x62, due to reasonable velocity works perfect with all the bullets out there, Ive used them all...I have not shot the accubond but I have used the old gree drab tipped 9.3x62 Nosler Balistic tip at near 2700 FPS and its a great bullet for deer and good enough for elk. The softest 9.3x62 bullet is the 270 gr. Speer and its plumb mushy as are the Hawk bullets...but again they work well on deer..I mostly use the 286 gr. Nosler partition on about everything, Nosler partitions expand quickly on entrance then stop expanding at the lead core and penetrate like the devil..That bullet works on everything and I like the fact that it doesn't blood shoot as much as most bullets.. The Accubond is a Balistic tip with a soldered core, and it is an awesome bullet in other calibers has been my experience. Havn't used it in the 9.3x62 but would not hesitate for a minute.. Its become my favorite bullet in the 30-06, 7x57, 250-3000 and .338 Win, why then would it not be a favorite in the 9.3x62. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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PM inbound, webfeet.. | |||
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Mauser M12 extreme. | |||
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I have 2 9,3x62 : 1. a "scout" based on a K98 action + Delcour barrel + Butler Creek stock and 3-point Ching sling. Scope is a Leupold EER 2x. 2. a Blaser R93 with Outdoor stock and Mag-Na-Ported barrel. Scope is a Swaro 1,25-4x24 with illuminated reticle. This one gets my preference ; it shoots < MOA and, thanks to the straight line recoil, it is very fast on repeat shots at running game (drive hunting). André DRSS --------- 3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact. 5 shots are a group. | |||
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I am very close to ordering a Tikka T3 Lite Stainless in 9,3x62. Put it in a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock. With a scope or aimpoint it should weigh 6,5-7 lbs | |||
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