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I already Have a 9.3x62 rebored from a .30-06 with no alterations at all and it feed flawlessly and shoots awesome. Im just tore at this point.. I will still have 4 .3006 rifles at hand so im good there. You guys make the choice for me and give some reasons as to why, Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | ||
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I have both 338-06 & a 9.3x62. I shoot the 338-06 MUCH more. A 200 gr Accubond leaving the muzzle at 2800 fps with moa accuracy has never let me down. Or. Is it because my 9.3 has a very nice custom hand checkered walnut stock & I don't want to get it scratched up? Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Make yourself a 8mm-06! M | |||
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Excuse me, but I hope you're not talking about a stock (unaltered) 1917 are you? It would be a crying shame to modify one of the increasingly scarce original military bolt rifles, thus destroying its historic (and monetary) value. And if it is not original, why do you insist on reboring rather than rebarreling? It's your gun and you do as you please with it, but do consider the consequences. | |||
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I know you said no alterations other than rebore. However, with a 9.3X62 in the stable I don't see what a .338-06 or .35 Whelen will do for you. If it were mine I'd go to .358 Norma or STA. | |||
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I vote for the .358 Norma. | |||
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Stonecreek It was already sporterized before I picked it up. If it were original Id keep it that way for sure A rebore I can have done for around $240.00 including shipping. Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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+1 There are lots of great 195-200 grain 8mm bullets. That's a great suggestion. A .338-06 would be a great choice as well. Dave DRSS Chapuis 9.3X74 Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL Krieghoff 500/.416 NE Krieghoff 500 NE "Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer" "If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition). | |||
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I built a 375X280 IMP a long time ago and hated I sold it. Great round if you want something like the 9.3. Always wanted a 400 Whelen but not sure its any better than the 375 on an 06 based case. For small caliber I like 6.5X280 IMP. 30 Gibbs would be a good one to rechamber your 30-06 without having to put a new barrel on it. | |||
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How about a 35 Whelen Ackley Improved. With a 22" bbl mine gives just barely short of 2700 fps with 250 grain Hornadys. Not too shabby from an '06 case and a fine elk killer. | |||
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Sell the 1917 to someone who thinks they are cool. I would not have one as they are clumsy and old. Buy a rifle already chambered for the cartridge you want. CZ 04104 CZ550 AMERICAN 9.3X62 $780.95 Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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Savage 99 Where did the sights go? ? I have an Idea im a bit old fashioned or at least older than you are Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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My second BG rifle was a sporterized 1917 30-06. That was a heavy, clumsy gun. I got my second deer with it in 1954. Too bad it didn't have a recoil pad. In 1966 I got my first .358 Win. a M99F. It's my all time favorite woods rifle. The picture came out too large from Photobucket on this forum. I might try later or tommorrow. It's kind of late now. My .358 99F is second from the bottom. The last one is also a .358 Win. Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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If you had listed .400 Whelen I would have voted for that. . | |||
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I concur I was not even born till 67. I feel a bit humbled The 1917 is a bit clumbsy but mine is still cock on closing also. So its going to stay that way also as I feel no disadvantage to it... I might have been born a few generations to late for my own thinking. as I checked my inventory I found I have in my collection the following.Not gonna tell. ALOT of bolt action rifles that do as described.... Id love a Ruger 9.3 of any kind Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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Just a youngster Have a great day | |||
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That's pretty good advice, to me. For the 338-06 you can pick up a 338 RCM. For the 9.3, the CZ pictured looks very nice. And you already have a 338 WinMag. Maybe you just need to grab your 30-06, 338WinMag, or 9.3 and go hunting ! A novel idea. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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You already know that the '17 Enfield is a heavy, cumbersome ol' son...You've got it there in your hand. It would be barrelled to a large magnum very effectively. Mine was made into a .300 WinMag when I built it in the high school shop back in 1968. I would have been happier, I decided later, if I'd chosen a .35 Ackley Mag, or .375 H&H AI. I've carried mine throughtout Nevada, and it was my go-to when I lived in Alaska. I still take it out at least once a month, just let the other rifles know what's expected of them. It'll print 1" groups at 100yards with 180gr bullets at 3200fps, and not just once in a while! Everything's been done to mine. I did it. It's cock on opening, restocked, receiver recontoured to M30 profile, adjustable trigger, and the scope is a Weaver V5 with a 2min Lee Dot. Old-school enough for you? It's one of the two rifles I own that's been given a name. It's "Luci." Everybody that knows me knows what I'm talking about when I mention "Luci." It's short for "Lucifer's Hammer." If you insist on keeping the original barrel, you could rebore to 9.3mm or .35 and rechamber to a ShortMag (2.5") design. You said you have a couple other '06s, so I presume they are smaller, so they would make better guns when converted to '06-based cartridges. I hope you're 1/2 as happy with yours as I am with mine! Have fun, Gene | |||
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If you want a gun that almost duplicates the 338 that you already have then the .338-06 is a good choice. The .35 Whelen is virtually identical to the 9.3x62 so there wont be any real change there. Have you got any 25 calibers? A 25-06 or even the 257 Roberts would be something new. If you want something larger why not wildcat a 30-06 into a 416-06? If you went with a slight taper on the entire case you could do a 45-06 but there would be no shoulder at all Speer, Sierra, Lyman, Hornady, Hodgdon have reliable reloading data. You won't find it on so and so's web page. | |||
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The last thing I worry about is cartridge overlap or duplication. Just build whatever makes you happy and don't worry about practicality. Obviously you're not building for a specific purpose (safari, bear, deer) so just build it and take it hunting when the time is right. Personally, I voted for the 35 whelen. ----------------------------------------------------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4 National Rifle Association Life Member | |||
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8mm-06 Gibbs IMPROVED dedicated to 196 grain bullets + or - 10 grains, opening up the field to use many great Euro made bullets. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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You cannot improve upon the .06 unless you rebarrel. A .300 H&H would have been a move up, but the chamber reamers doesn't work out just right. Leave them as they are, and enjoy them. Make them shootable for different situations using different bullets. It's hard to beat the versatility of the .06. There's nothing a .358 bullet cannot do that a .308 can using the right ballistics. If you really want something unique, sell off a couple of your .06's and buy something unique. JP Sauer Drilling 12x12x9.3x72 David Murray Scottish Hammer 12 Bore Alex Henry 500/450 Double Rifle Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock 6.5x55 Steyr Classic Mannlicher Fullstock .30-06 Walther PPQ H2 9mm Walther PPS M2 Cogswell & Harrison Hammer 12 Bore Damascus And Too Many More | |||
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Is a step up of 350 foot lbs.over factory loads an improvement? Seems like it might be. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I still say add another $200-250 to your price and make it a fire breathing .358 bore magnum. The action can surely handle it. | |||
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Easy decision - 400 Whelen. ________ Ray | |||
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I would want a 40 calibre to generate at least 2400-2600 fps. The 416 Ruger would be where I would set the bar for 40 cal, so the .473" casehead needs to look for a different venue. Anything from 270 Win to 33, 35, and 36 calibre would work. 27 and 36 (aka 9.3) already have great cartridges widely recognized around the world. So for ease go for them. Since you have a 9.3, then build a Jack O'Connor special. Discover why the 270 keeps holding its own. It was the original "flat-shooting magnum". I think we'll need one in TZ, lightweight with a 13" LOP.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Build another 9.3x62 in case you lose the first due to fire, theft or clumsy canoe handling. | |||
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Rick You must know of my mishaps with Canoes.. I once..... oh never mind Ill keep that story to my self Looking at the votes most of you want me to go with the .35 Whelan. Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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I too have an 06 and a 9.3x62, So...Been looking at a 400 Whelen. Looks like dies and cases are $$$.$$, but bullets from a 225 Hornady to 400 Swift "A" to 400 solids are still available for the 0.410" bore. Think I could get up to 2,150 fps with the 400s. Noticed however the 350s 300s even the 225s don't get much over about 2350 max. But 225s at 2350 would be more pleasant to shoot than a 400 at 2150. It just seems to cover a much more wide range of bullets weights than my 9.3. Like I said "EASY DECISION" ________ Ray | |||
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