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Check out the HS Precision, Sig SHR-970, and the Blaser R-93. The Traveler's takedown system is quite similar to the Sig SHR-970.....DJ
 
Posts: 3976 | Location: Oklahoma,USA | Registered: 27 February 2004Reply With Quote
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I have had several styles of takedown rifles. The Blaser R 93 the the best. Most TD rifles have accuracy problems,one cal shoots the other is mediocre at best. The Blaser in my experiance seems to be very accurate with every cal I own

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Posts: 1573 | Location: USA, most of the time  | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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How about the Heym Express Light in take down.
That is a mauser style action with a real take down system no tools just klick.






Calibers available:
8x68 S, .300 Win. Mag., .300 Rem, Ultra Mag., 338. Win Mag .375 Rem. Ultra Mag., .416 Rem. Mag.
.300 Win. Mag., .300 Rem. Ultra Mag., .300 Weath. Mag., .338 Win. Mag., .338 Lapua Mag., .375 H&H Mag., .378 Weath.Mag., .404 Riml. Jeffery, .425 Express, .416 Rigby, .450 Rigby, .450 Ackley, .458 Win. Mag., .460 Weath. Mag., .500 A-Square, .500 Jeffery, .505 Gibbs, .577 N.E., .600 N.E.


http://www.heym-waffenfabrik.de/english/S_Buechs/S_TakDoweng/stTakDow.html

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That Heym was a beautiful rifle indeed! But the price will make you gag. I think they call it the Heym-like maneuver .......DJ
 
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And how much is it?
 
Posts: 6935 | Location: hydesville, ca. , USA | Registered: 17 March 2001Reply With Quote
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What about the new Sauer 202 Take Down???
 
Posts: 202 | Location: Vienna/Austria | Registered: 04 October 2001Reply With Quote
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The sauer 202 is not a real take down. And a push feed.

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Posts: 2293 | Location: The Kingdom of Denmark | Registered: 13 January 2004Reply With Quote
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Why is the Sauer not a take-down?



Because it requires tools?
 
Posts: 209 | Location: Sweden | Registered: 30 October 2003Reply With Quote
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Aleko is correct. I have Blaser rifles in several calibers. You can break them down AND remove the scope, put them back together and you will not loose your zero.
 
Posts: 16134 | Location: Texas | Registered: 06 April 2002Reply With Quote
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I would think that Heym would cost around $ 30,000.00 dollars. I take my rifles, out of the stock so they fit in shorter cases for traveling. Some screw drivers and a couple of shots to check zero and that is that. Looks like Heym has cooked up a nice design there. Give enough time take downs like that will shoot loose. Most all of them do. I don't know about the Blaser R-93 but what I have heard and seen it looks like a pretty good set up for a traveling hunter, if the Blaser floats your boat.
 
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The Heym is about $5000-5500 NECG can tell you the exact price they are Heym dealers.
The sauer take down is not a true take down due to the fact that one have to play with the for fore grip to asemble the rifle. Check it out:



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Andr�
 
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A friend has a Dakota Traveler and it is a nice system. ONe of calibers is 300 H&H and I think the other is 458 Win mag but I'm not sure about the top side.
I shoots easily into 1.2" with either barrel. It's pricey now though-about twice what he paid 2 years ago. I'm not sure they are still making them after the owner died.
 
Posts: 1275 | Location: Fla | Registered: 16 March 2001Reply With Quote
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To say the Sauer 202 Take Down is no real Take Down is simply a sacrilege!

Pushfeed is right - unforunatly....

The TD system is the best, periode!
This is the only one where it is possible to change barrels and find NO difference in POI.

Even the Blaser R93 is sensitive to the touque of the screws holding the barrel in place - and requires a POI check before one can use it in the field!

The Sauer is locking the lugs in the barrel - thus centering the bore everytime - delivering wonderfull accuracy everytime it is taken down and put together again.



Please have a look at the sauer homepage:

Sauer 202 Take Down

Give it a second look - some love afaires didn't start right away Andr�
 
Posts: 202 | Location: Vienna/Austria | Registered: 04 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Day dreamer

I have had a Sauer 90 Lux with all the trimmings and for a fush feed it is allright.
But the action is so tight and smoth that if you get a sandcorn in the bolt you will have problems operating it

Here is a real take down from Peter Hambrusch in the following calibres:
.338 Lapua mag.
.416 Rigby
.600 NE

Magnum mauser naturally



Personally I think that take down is unnecessary unless you are a dwarf and have a problem carrying long items
Anybody... Tell me why a take down is so nice to have. I keep it simple.... and do not need to complicate a rifle more then necessary.

Here is another take down rifle in cal .500 Jeffery this rifle belongs to a AR member who won it in a rafle


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Andr�
 
Posts: 2293 | Location: The Kingdom of Denmark | Registered: 13 January 2004Reply With Quote
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As an inexpensive "semi take down" rifle, a Remington pump, 760 or 7600 is hard to beat. The barrels remove somewhat like a 870 shotgun and there is no problem with reassembly. Also other calibres will interchange within the same cartridge family and magazine length. Lastly, where legal, most folding stocks made for the 870 shotgun can be made to fit the pump rifle.
 
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I used a plastic stocked Ruger with the barrel shortened a little as my travel gun. Taken apart it fit inside my Samsonite two suiter along with everything else I needed for a week trip. Seemed to return to zero just fine.
 
Posts: 3174 | Location: Warren, PA | Registered: 08 August 2002Reply With Quote
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Andr�



I hear you



Please compare the lines of the Harmbrusch with this Sauer 202 Hatari



Then compare the price - the 202 TD is around Euro 3.000 here..... additional barrels are running Euro 800, cheap way of stocking up different calibers (aside mounts and scopes for each one....)











It is no DGR - maybe as a backup rifle - but a 300WM and a change barrel in 375H&H in that configuration, in a nice leather case with two scopes would be a damn' nice package







Cheers, Franz
 
Posts: 202 | Location: Vienna/Austria | Registered: 04 October 2001Reply With Quote
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Andre, the Sauer 90 (rear locking) is a different action to the Sauer 200/202 (front locking) DayDreamer is talking about.

I personally dote on take-down rifles, at least for hunting that involves travel. SO much better to travel with a take-down rifle inside your duffel bag, rather than the regular, full-size gun-case. And I guess from your caliber choice (.338 Lapua, .416 Rigby, .600 NE - sic!), that you are intending to do some hunting outside Denmark?? Try a good take-down rifle, I'm sure you'd enjoy it.
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Even the Blaser R93 is sensitive to the touque of the screws holding the barrel in place - and requires a POI check before one can use it in the field!




Obviously you have never owned a Blaser. Otherwise you would not make such an ignorant statement.
 
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How about a "Copilot"?

Click on "The Copilot" at the following web page:

http://www.wildwestguns.com/
 
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Even the Blaser R93 is sensitive to the touque of the screws holding the barrel in place - and requires a POI check before one can use it in the field!



Obviously you have never owned a Blaser. Otherwise you would not make such an ignorant statement.



I must say, I have never noticed that either? It had me wondering when I saw the original post. (Not sure I would have used the word "ignorant" to characterize the statement, though).
- mike
 
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A good alternative is a brake top single shot or combination rifle. I travelled a lot with a Blaser BBF95 in 12 gauge and 30/06. There is no messing around with bolts and it returns every time to it�s original zero. Length is under 60 cm so it fits in most suit cases.

http://www.blaser.de/english/produkte/b9597/blaser95.htm
 
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Perhaps that was a bit harsh. Here is one definition of ignorance...........lacking information or knowledge.
 
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Good on you M16, our discussions are all the more enjoyable when we all stay civil, even though we don't always feel like it... . Just one man's opinion, you did right.
- mike
 
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