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18 March 2009, 02:20
jsl3170
stock design
Gents:
Is there a particular stock design that would work well with a M70 in 3006 if one were to mount the scope with QR rings so it could be used with both optics and irons (when needed)?

Thinking walnut here.

Jeff
18 March 2009, 02:29
tasunkawitko
quote:
if one were to mount the scope with QR rings so it could be used with both optics and irons


eeewwwww!


18 March 2009, 02:38
jsl3170
at least keep it helpful...
18 March 2009, 02:41
tasunkawitko
sorry - allowed my reaction and personal preference to overwhelm my usual desire to make useful posts.

the QR thing has been hashed out before - sit back, grab a beer and a bag of marshmallows...i'll cut us a couple of willow sticks and we'll watch the flames! beer
18 March 2009, 02:58
jsl3170
great... serious, man. I'm wondering because I want to have these guns worked on and would like to replace the stocks with something else but not sure how the stock should be.
18 March 2009, 03:01
tasunkawitko
this link might provide some ideas....

http://www.richardsmicrofitstocks.com/

otherwise, contact the member named DEMPSEY. he can be found here or at www.baitshopboyz.com under the name Rob1. he is one dude who knows stocks and the only one i would trust with the wood on my rifles.
18 March 2009, 03:10
TC1
tasunkawitko, you know he's not talking about "see through" mounts right?

About any stock that provides about 1" of drop at the comb and 1 1/2" will work pretty smoth for both iron sight and scope use.

I actually prefer about 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" drop at the heal even with a scope. I've never liked mashing my cheek into the stock to get a sight picture.

Terry


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18 March 2009, 03:13
tasunkawitko
well, i sure feel like a dummy now!

that's what i get for quickly skimming over things instead of actually reading....


my apologies..... sofa
18 March 2009, 03:45
N E 450 No2
One option is to mount your scope as low as possible. Then mount your iron sights kinda high using an "island" as a sight base for the rear and a tall ramp for the front.


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18 March 2009, 04:14
Michael Robinson
quote:
Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
One option is to mount your scope as low as possible. Then mount your iron sights kinda high using an "island" as a sight base for the rear and a tall ramp for the front.


Excellent advice.

When people say a stock can't do double duty for a scope and iron sights, I just scratch my head.

I think the problem with their reasoning is that they have used rifles with low-to-the barrel irons and a high-mounted scope. Of course that won't work.

With that combination, the shooter has to either crunch down on his cheek bone or crane his neck and sacrifice a good, firm cheek weld. Not comfortable in either case.

But with the irons mounted higher (say, on an NECG island rear base and a banded ramp front), and the scope snuggled in low QD Talley rings, I have never had a problem going back and forth from irons to a scope.

The stock should be straight back, with very little drop at heel, and high combed - the bolt should clear the comb, but not by a whole lot, IMHO.


Mike

Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
18 March 2009, 04:31
merlinron
actually, as generic as they may be, most factory stocks are dimensioned with that in mind, as much as they can be, anyways. pick up any factory rifle that comes with irons and it will be a decent compromise between scope and ironsight alignment.
21 March 2009, 22:29
Frank Martinez
You might also try a swing off scope mount. HH developed that idea many moons past and I have an old Savage 99 which snaps back and forth and stays on center yet.
They are actually easier to use than the Leupold qr.
Frank
21 March 2009, 22:44
Jaywalker
My factory M70 Classic Featherweight stock is a bout 3/4" drop at comb, and it would work fine for me with irons, as well as the low-mounted scope I have on it now.