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I friend gave me a box of NP in 200 grains. I have a 300 win and a 30-06. Does these heavier bullets pass through on animals like pigs and deers without expanding to much ? How they will work in the 300 for long shots (300/400 yards) at red stags in the mountains ? They will drop too much or they will be too tough for that distance (slow velocity)?? Thanks L | ||
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I don't think you have to worry about the NPs not expanding in smaller animals or at low velocity. The front 1/3 of NPs are soft and will open up easily. With 30 cal. 200gr bullets, I'd expcet to get full expansion and pass throughs on any shot that doesn't hit the spine or a couple of legs/shoulders. Dean ...I say that hunters go into Paradise when they die, and live in this world more joyfully than any other men. -Edward, Duke of York | |||
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The 200 grain Nosler Partition is my favorite bullet in a 300 mag. They have a high B.C. which makes them excellent for long range work. They also have a high S.D. so penetration is excellent. In my opinion, if you want a "wonder bullet" this is it - it will do it all. | |||
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Lorenzo - What I am about to say is just my opinion, so not everyone, quite possibly not even the majority of others, may agree. I believe Nosler 200 partitions are excellent game bullets. I have shot deer, elk, moose, and other animals with them. Because of their design, they will not fail to expand, even at 400 yards, especially from a .300 Magnum. The front half is designed to expand easily, and often destroys itself in he process, creating a massive wound. Then the back half, which is designed to NOT expand, pushes on into the animal and often exits the other side (if the animal is shot from one side). If the animal is shot from one end or the other, that non-expanding rear half of the bullet almost always pushes far enough into the animal to get to where the vital life-machinery is. The nice thing is the front half of the bullet will expand well on even small light deer, while the back half will push the full length of a moose. Obviously, that is a generality, not an absolute fact in every single instance. Impact velocity and exactly where the animal is struck, and and at what angle, also have roles to play just like happens in the performance of any other make of bullet. But Nosler Partitions have worked well for over 50 years now, which is why they are still so popular. There are two kinds of Partitions....the older ones had round noses, and so they were not quite as good for very long range shots because they did not fly as flat and were therefore a little harder to be sure of hitting with exactly where the hunter might want. The newer ones (for at least the last 30 years) are spitzer pointed, so do better than the old round-nosed ones...that is, have less drop. Personally, I don't believe in shooting at animals at 400 yards unless I'm doing it as a paid-for-job involving shooting (even to the point of being directed to risk wounding and not killing cleanly) animals which MUST be removed from a site. I found that distasteful enough that these days I absolutely refuse such employment. It isn't that the bullets aren't accurate enough. They are. It is because of unexpected animal movement, undetected wind conditions, that sort of thing. Be that as it may, the Nosler Partition is probably capable of performing up to the hunter's ability (and ethics) at any range normal to hunting. Good luck with them, I think you will like them. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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Lorenzo; It is a great choice for either rifle of yours. I use a lot of the older round nose 200NP in my 30-06. Deer, pigs, elk. Even at fairly long range the front will open up. I have never had one slip through like a solid. Good hunting Raff | |||
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The minimum impact velocity for expansion of the partition is 1800fps. http://www.noslerreloading.com...viewtopic.php?t=1347 | |||
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Lorenzo I have used the 200gr Partition in the 300 H&H and quite bit in the 300 Wtby. It is my GO TO 30 caliber bullet for the 300 Mags. | |||
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WOWWWWWWWWW GREAT !!!!!!!!! Thanks gentlemen !!!! It seems I have THE bullet for next march (red stag season)!! I never shoot that distances, not because of ethics, I not even reach the point if it's ethical or not shooting at that distances, it's just because I don't even think I will be capable of hitting nothing that far !!! But a friend of mine invited me to go to some mountains and it seems that the place is open and that 300/400 yards shots can be expected.... Thanks again. L | |||
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The 200 NP is a great bullet, esecially for the bigger deer, elk, moose, bear etc. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Generally speaking the .300 magnums shoot the 200 grain bullets and the 30-06 shoots the 180 grain bullets with complete confidence. This is not to say the .30-06 won't do a fine job of shooting the 200 grain bullets too! The 200 grain NP is a great bullet for either of these rounds! | |||
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Dear Lorenzo: If you want to see just how accurate a Nosler Partition can be, check this out: That is a benchrest five shot group at 100 yards, using 100 grain Nosler Partitions from my 243 Winchester in a Sako L-579 with factory barrel. Yes, it's under a 5/8" group. As to the performance on game, I have no experience with the 200 grain .308 caliber Nosler Partition. Their reputation is excellent though. Sincerely, Chris Bemis | |||
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Hi Lorenzo, I agree the .30 200 grs NP bullet is THE bullet for any of the .300 Mag. In my opinion, IDEAL long range bullet for big Red Deer and simmilar big game animals here in the Cordillera. I reload with it, and R25 for a friend`s .300 Win Mag he use for these Red Deer around here. Best Regards ! PH | |||
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Excellent use it for everything bullet for the .300. I've never use it in the 30-06. | |||
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John Barness who writes for several publications and is one of the believable ones for me, writes Quote: "For decades I used the 200-grain Nosler Partition and 59.0 grains of H-4831 as my heavy-game load in the ’06, for 2,600+ in 22-inch barrels. If you like heavy bullets, this load shoots a lot flatter than you’d imagine." "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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Thanks gentlemen !! PH, I sent you a PM. L | |||
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If you want to see how accurate 200NP's are, here's how accurate they are out of a drilling. DM | |||
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The bullets must be good but that Krieghoff Drilling accuracy it's something to admire.. L | |||
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I took my 9 1/2 ft. Brown Bear with a 200 grain Nosler Partition at 2950 fps from my .300 Winny. A one shot in it's tracks kill with it standing facing me when I shot it. It pulvarized the heart and the Bear never twitched after the shot. I have a great deal of respect for the bullet and what it can do. Good shooting. phurley | |||
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