HS Precision has a line of rifles that can be disassembled in half (for convenient transportation) then re-assembled with (supposedly) no change in zero.
http://www.hsprecision.com/shop/rifles/takedown
Has anyone had experience with these rifles? I can't believe there isn't SOME change in point of impact after being taken down and re-assembled. Thx

Hunter308

I don't own one of these rifles, but I have handled one. IMHO, you have to be very, very careful when you turn in the barrels. It is easy to get the barrel thread stuck - or even screwed up. I personally don't like take-down systems based on threaded barrels - or the thread has to be so coarse that the problem does not arise.

The better take-down systems, by far, are the systems that were originally designed as take-down. These are almost exclusively of European origin and include choices such as Blaser R93 (R8), Sauer 20X, Mauser 03 plus the (very pricey) Mauser 98/M70 derivations which get away without a threaded barrel (bolt lockup directly in barrel). Dakota makes one of these systems, if you'd prefer a US made gun.

Of all these systems, the Blaser R93 (R8) is the only one to have the scope mount positioned directly on the barrel. This is the way to go, if you worry about minimal change in POI after dis-assembly/re-assembly of the rifle/scope. However, the other systems mentioned above can also provide sufficiently reproducible POI to be usable without re-sighting. A lot depends on the (QD) scope mount you choose.

- mike

For those prices I would much rather go with a Blaser R 93 or R 8 or even an Encore or Contender.

Another vote for the Blaser R8.

I know this isn't the answer to the question you asked, but I have an R93 and it comes apart and goes together without any change in zero. Below is a photo I took of a target. There are 7 shots on the target (I just happened to have 7 rounds left of that load so I used them up hence the strange number) at 100m and the squares are 1 inch so the group is probably a little under 2 inches. The rifle is zeroed at 200m hence why the POI is high. After shot 3 I removed the scope from the barrel, shook everything around a bit and then attached the scope again. I didn't mess about letting things cool or anything, when I wasn't messing about with the scope I just shot away. As you can see there is no evidence of any major change in POI and the group size probably reflects my lack of skill rather than any small failing on the part of the rifle. So, while I can't comment on your particular question what I can say is that there are tried and tested take down systems that do work - my rifle performs the same if I take the barrel off which is to say I can see no significant change in POI.

I have never seen one of those rifles in person. I have seen and shot the Blaser. My favorite take down rifle is the Mauser Model M03.


I have been impressed with the accuracy of my M03 and the Blasers I have shot. They return to zero every time!

I once placed second at bench rest fun shoot with my 6mmBR Norma Blaser R93 Varmint rifle. I took the scope and barrel apart between all 20 shots. I had a crowd of 15-20 shooters behind me by the end of the match.

The Blaser scope mounts return to zero between every shot, every time. Best take down system out there and IMHO the best bolt action rifle ever made.

Dave, what did the (only) other person in the match think of the Blaser!!!!!

I love the R93/R8 rifles and the M03 too.

On a true takedown ( a rifle that takes down with no tools)

The Sauer 202 takedown is one of the finest made!!!

http://www.sigsauer.de/index.php?id=579&lang=en

Ed

Three years ago I decided I wanted to go to multi caliber takedown rifles to facilitate post retirement out of state and international hunts.

I'd only seen pictures of the old classic Mauser take downs. I found the H-S Precission and the Dakota Traveler and started asking the same questions you are asking.

I was quickly redirected to the Blaser R93. I now have 2 matching R93 Professionals and more barrels than I care to admit to. I'll only be hunting with these from now on so over time I'll be selling off my other rifles.

I recommend going with the new R8 only because I believe it will remain on the market after they phase out the R93 in a few years.

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Originally posted by Biebs:
Dave, what did the (only) other person in the match think of the Blaser!!!!!

She was very impressed with my long barrel!

LOL !

Dave, I thought she said that the only reason you won was your short barrel - leading to short barrel time, and your fast lock time :0D

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Originally posted by Brazos Jack:
Dave, I thought she said that the only reason you won was your short barrel - leading to short barrel time, and your fast lock time :0D

Never been accused of having a short barrel or lock time!