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Thinking about a new 30/06. Which would you pick Sako or Cooper? | ||
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Lots of different models of each from which to choose. What are your parameters? GWB | |||
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I was thinking a Jackson hunter stainless with synthetic stock or Sako 85 stainless synthetic | |||
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I actually bought both of them last year, and in 30-06. The Sako Greywolf was no better than OK in fit and finish and had a fatal flaw in that the cold bore shot was always at least 2 inches high of the following group. At least it had an accuracy warranty so takeing it back was painless. The Cooper is a joy to be around. Its hard to shoot a group over an inch with any load, and hot or cold it just keeps boreingly hitting whatever its pointed at. I took it to Australia for what amounts to a lifetimes worth of game shooting (For most people) compressed into a week. | |||
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I have owned both, and the Cooper is the best gun for both accuracy and guarantee. The Cooper 52 is pretty heavy to carry all day, but they are so easy to shoot well. Mine is a Jackson Hunter with a 26" fluted barrel and I really like the balance of the gun. I easy get 2800 fps with 180's and the elk don't like it. Look at First Stop's Gun shop. I bought a mod 52 270 from them and they were great. Good Luck, Daryl. | |||
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If I were going to spend that kind of money I'd just go ahead and get a semi custom Harvester from Hill Country Rifles. Mine are .5 shooters and I'll have another this year. | |||
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IIRC, the difference between the Jackson Game and the Jackson Hunter is the synthetic stock. You might also consider the Excalibur. Having owned 20 or so Sakos and a dozen plus 1 Coopers, as much as I hate to say it, I'd have to go with what the other guys said. Cooper. Best, GWB | |||
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Either are good choices. I have three Coopers all shooting 1/2 moa or better. I really like the Sako 85 Bavarian Carbine in 6.5x55 SE. | |||
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I have a Sako 85 in 300WSM and really like it but I think I hear a jackson hunter calling my name. | |||
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Decisions, decisions.......... a tune to help you decide
Clem, I like the way you think! Different strokes for different folks.   Sako Bavarian Carbine, 308 Win, Cooper Jackson Game Rife, 25-06 Rem. Best, GWB | |||
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Nice rifles!! Nice choice in optics too.  | |||
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30-06 Spfd is "God's Caliber" -- Besides being pretty much the "Goldilocks standard" ("Not too big. Not too small.") you can always find ammo for it. Chances are there's some loose under the seat of your truck, or the guy at the gas station out in BFE has some in his truck. ================================================================== A. Hamilton "The Federalist, No. 29, 'Concerning the Militia'" [I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist. | |||
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I love the Coopers, but I swore to never own one after the (ousted) owner donated $$$ and supported Obama. Sorry, I don't mean to turn this political and I know the owner stepped down, but still... I will always have room for Sako's in my gun safe. ----------------------------------------------------- Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26-4 National Rifle Association Life Member | |||
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Rub Line, lord luv ya, as late as it is I just can't let this go, so once more,  I've published this or something like this on numerous occasions. Maybe in response to you before. So since you've expressed your opinion, I'll express mine. I hate what Obama and his administration are trying to do to our country. I find it hard to believe that Dan Cooper was short sighted enough to contribute to a political candidate/party that would like to see even more gun control. Having said that, I doubt that you could give evidence that Dan's political stance and contributions directly contributed to the death of any American citizens that I know of. Ever heard of WWI or WWII. Ever heard of the Korean war, China, Italy, ever heard of 9/11. That's where the dead Americans come in. Each of these countries and its citizens have been directly responsible for the death of many American citizens. Dan Cooper has not. You will not even own a second hand Cooper, bought from another American citizen, but yet you probably will buy a Honda, a Toyota, a Mercedes. You probably will buy clothes assembled in Korea, italian wines, German or Austrian optics/crystal, cell phones assembled in China etc. You probably use gas or petroleum derivatives from Saudi Crude. All of the aforementioned people/countries have done a lot more harm to Americans than that done by Dan Cooper contributing $3,000 to Obama's election campaign. Dan Cooper is long gone. Cooper is an American company employing Americans and making fine rifles in America. I've now owned 13, all purchased used from other Americans. For my money, used, they are the best value one can buy, bar none. Best GWB | |||
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I'd have to agree. Dan Cooper donated to Obama. Cooper Firearms of Montana did not. They also took action to oust him for his stance. I have three Coopers (so far) and all are exceptional. | |||
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Rubline, So, it is alright for you to buy a Sako that is imported into the US from another country and not alright to buy a rifle proudly made by American workers in western Montana. Please explain your logic. Also, please stay in Wisconsin. | |||
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neither, I'd buy a cheaper rifle and put the money into a schmidt & bender scope. Can't hit what you can't see. | |||
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I believe in buying good glass, but........... NO Schmidt,........      No Bender       No Problem  Best GWB | |||
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I chuckle every time I read this type of thing. I've helped my buddy guide over 100 hunters in the past 10 years. They show up in camp with lots of different glass including S&B, Diavari's, etc which do have fantastic glass. I get to check every one of them out, including the S&B Summit I used to own. I won't bore you with the details, but every VX3 or Conquest I own gets me past legal shooting light every time. As a matter of fact I'll go so far to say the the duplex reticles I've seen on the Diavari's and S&B's use way too thin wire, and wash out before the VX3 does. A couple of years ago we watched as our hunter shot at a 185' muley buck at dusk thirty. My buddy had his 7STW right there too as a backup, topped with a VXII 3-9x40. The hunter did kill the buck, but we could have easily killed that buck with the VXII. Don't get me wrong, I love great glass and use it. I've personally killed 4 bucks from 190"- 214", and my buddy has killed 4 from 185"-200", all since 2006, none of them with high dollar euro stuff. | |||
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Sorry, I'm with Rub Line.....the guys who bought Cooper deserve the ill will generated. They got the company at a discount after all, due to the inexcusable behavior of the owners. Also a Sako fan. Hope Coooper turns out to be a banner brand....I'll give it a generation. The damage done by Cooper selling out may well last longer than that. Dan | |||
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I have. Cooper Excalibur in 257 Weatherby and I have to say it is an impressive rifle. Like Dogleg said the rifle shoots the first shot in the same group as the 2nd 3rd and 4th. | |||
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Hmmm...I guess I split the difference between most of you. I expect foreigners who live in other countries to try and sell us out. Some see their anti-gun cultures as superior to ours but when one of my own countrymen does so...it is unacceptable. How he could have supported Barack Obama for President is beyond my understanding...and the last 4 years has proven the point. I'm not privy to how the company actually sold or how the corporate structure may have changed to get him out of the picture but as long as he isn't physically residing in the building, I wouldn't be averse to buying one of their rifles. I could even live with the reality he could be collecting royalties on gun sales if that were the case. Now if I find out the current employees are card carrying Obama supporters, I'm done with em. Mixing business and politics is a sure way to lose customers. | |||
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