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Anyone have any recent experience with loading for this combination? I have done a search and found lots of information from Ray about his loads but that is all some time back. Trying to find out what others may been experimented with recently. Thanks in advance.


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+1!
perhaps Will will explain his comment on the other thread:
"Just don't pretend that they are something they ain't!".
What benefit is there to a 320 grain vs. a 286 solid?
I shoot a Tikka 512SD in 9.3x74R.
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Mike:

I am in the process of loading some 320 grain Woodleigh RN for my 9.3X62 right now. I am using Ramshot Big Game. Here is the information I got from Johann Loubser at Accurate:

Caliber:      9.3x62 Mauser
Barrel length:      24”
Powder:           Ramshot - BIG GAME (1st Choice)
Bullet weight:  232 grains.
Start load: 60.0grains (2400 – 2500 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load:  65.0grains (2650 – 2750 Ft/p/sec).
Bullet weight:  250 grains.
Start load: 58.0grains (2300 – 2400 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load:  63.5grains (2550 – 2650 Ft/p/sec).
Bullet weight:  275/285grains.
Start load: 56.0grains (2250–2350 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load:  62.0grains (2450 – 2550 Ft/p/sec).
Bullet weight:  290/300grains.
Start load: 54.0grains (2200 - 2300 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 59.0 grains (2400-2500ft/p/sec).
Bullet weight:  320 grains.
Start load: 53.0grains (2100 - 2200 ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 58.0 grains (2300-2400ft/p/sec).

I wills shoot some tomorrow if we get a break in the weather.


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Krieghoff 500 NE

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To Paraphrase. The Woodleigh 320 RNSP over 55 grains 2208/Varget = 2,188fps from a 25" barrel. A 1 in 14" twist will stabilse this projectile.

Edit: I have no experience with the PPSN or FMJ 320 Woodleigh. 2208/Varget is THE powder for the 9.3x62 and has the added benefit of being unaffected by temperature changes.
 
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Mike:

There is some more data here:

http://www.realguns.com/loads/93x62mm.htm


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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F210 primer ADI2208 (Varget) 55 gr Woodleigh RN 320 gr 3.167"OAL 2215 fps
F210 primer ADI2208 (Varget) 56 gr Woodleigh RN 320 gr 2280 fps

Dave Bush - have you tried any other powders that give you similar velocities. I realise that Ramshot is a double based modern powder and Joh Barsness also gets high velocities from his pressure tested loads. I find the velocity of 2400 fps a bit high & I doubt if Re15, Varget or N150 would achieve that safely. 2400 fps would be rivaling 375 H&H performance in a smaller case.


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My load data for my 9.3x66,yes I do mean 9.3x66
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Nakihunter:

I would guess that the Ramshot data is a bit on the optimistic side. I can't really chrony these loads now because of the weather. I'll try and do that later this spring.

I always thought that Jon Barsness data was on the hot side. If I recall, he was loading 65 grains of Big Game with a 286 grain bullet. I know that there are guys here that do that but I tried it and I think those loads are too hot, especially if you were shooting them on a really hot day in Africa. I think the 62 grain load with a 286 grain bullet suggested by Johann is right in the ball park. If you can run a 286 grain bullet out of your 9.3X62 at 2350-2400, I think that is plenty.


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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You are correct Dave. Those are "blue sky" loads.

Some perfect 9.3x62 loads are on the www.sako.fi
website with the VV N 140. I use the 250 grain load for 250 grain Accubonds, and the 286 data with 286 grain Partitions; brilliant.


 
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Shot about 15 rounds today. Load was Norma case, Winchester standard rifle primer, 58 grains of Ramshot Big Game, and the 320 Woodleigh. We were just shooting jugs and clay targets but if the primers are any indication, pressures appeared to be quite modest and recoil was also pretty light. Can't do much else until weather breaks up here and then I will try and put them on paper and shoot across the chrony. The 9.3X62 is a wonderful caliber.


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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Did you chrono any Dave?


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Mike:

Didn't have a chance to put any on the chrony. We have quite a bit of snow here. I will do that if I get a warm day. I used 58 grains of Ramshot Big Game. Two things to notice. First, primers look good and I think there is room to go up a grain or two. Second, because Big Game is a spherical powder, there is room for more.


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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Did you chrono any Dave?


Mike:

I finally had a chance to shoot over the chrony today.

As indicated above, the load was a Norma case (which seem to last forever), Winchester large rifle primer, 58 grains of Ramshot Big Game, and a 320 Woodleigh RN SN. Big Game is a spherical powder so I used a slight roll crimp to insure proper ignition. All loads were shot from a CZ 550 American with a 23.6 inch barrel and velocity was measured twelve feet from the muzzle. It was about 60 degrees up here today. The chrony results for five shots were:

High: 2222 fps
Low: 2200 fps
Average: 2209 fps

If the primers are any indication, there is room to go up a bit as these loads seemed quite mild.

The 320 Woodleigh RN SN has a SD of .341 and a BC of .359. At that velocity, sighted in at 2.6 inches high at 100 yards, they would be dead on at 175 yards and 2.1 inches low at 200 yards. This is exactly the same ballistics as the flanged .360 No. 2 and would probably be an exceptional load for buffalo in your 9.3.


Dave
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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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Kynoch shows ballistics for the .360 No.2 as 2150 fps with a 320 grain bullet out of a 28 inch barrel. John Taylor says 2200 fps with a 320 grain bullet. Either way, the ballistics are pretty close.


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Chapuis 9.3X74
Chapuis "Jungle" .375 FL
Krieghoff 500/.416 NE
Krieghoff 500 NE

"Git as close as y can laddie an then git ten yards closer"

"If the biggest, baddest animals on the planet are on the menu, and you'd rather pay a taxidermist than a mortician, consider the 500 NE as the last word in life insurance." Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading (8th Edition).
 
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I shot buff last year in Zimbabwe with a Merkel 9.3x74 double rifle. 320 Woodleigh soft/solid going 2114 fps. The soft was lodged against the opposite shoulder and retained 314gr. The solid hit the animal in the l/r ham as he quarterd away and exited ahead of the rt/ft shoulder. The 320s penetrate so well speed is not necessary and I suspect may cause failures of the soft point if pusshed too hard. Where that point is I don't know, but 2100fps kicked it's butt. If I go back again I'll be using the same load and rifle for sure. The 9.3 with 320 are serious buff killers.
 
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I use 55grns of Varget or 54grns of H-335 for around 2200fps.
 
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